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City Rejects Business' Composting Plans

Mayor Steve Scaffidi broke a 3-3 tie to prevent Green Man from beginning composting operations at its facility on Nicholson Road.

 

After criticism from residents and some aldermen, Mayor Steve Scaffidi cast a tie-breaking vote to reject Green Man Wood Services' plans to operate a state-licensed composting facility.

Green Man, 9000 S. Nicholson Road, has been the topic of much debate among its neighbors in the last year after owner Dan Gustin first tried starting composting operations back in November of 2011.

The Common Council delayed action to allow Gustin to sort out issues brought up by neighbors. Much of the residents' concerns stemmed from how composting, specifically the smell from the materials brought in, would negatively affect the neighborhood.

Those concerns have not died down. Residents complained Tuesday about foul odors in the area they believe came from Green Man, which last year brought in shipments of animal waste from the Milwaukee County Zoo for composting — without the proper permits — and proposed to do it again. Others feared the composting site would be an eyesore.

"The odor is unbelievable," said Tim Sommers, a neighbor of the facility. "I've been there 22 years and never put up with anything like this."

Gustin argued that when done properly, there is no odor at all. Many of the previous complaints were unfounded, he said.

He invited aldermen and residents to stop by and watch the process done so that they could feel more at ease.

Green Man, whose services include lawn maintenance, landscaping, tree removal and the recycling of wood products, got approval in 2007 to operate a lumberyard and contractor’s office, with outdoor storage included.

Under the proposal, Green Man would have received one daily shipment from the Milwaukee County Zoo to add to the compost pile. Gustin said odors from that could be removed by adding woodchips to the pile.

Some aldermen and Scaffidi said with many homes nearby, Green Man was not a good place for that type of operation.

Other aldermen said they could approve composting but limit what could be brought in — namely, prohibiting animal waste from the zoo.

After a 3-3 tie, Scaffidi cast the deciding vote to deny the composting operation.

"As much as I am pro-business, in this case I think this is too much of a big issue and we have to be concerned with what the residents think," Scaffidi said. "You obviously run a good business, but this part of it is causing too much consternation."

Related Topics: Common Council, Composting, Dan Gustin, Green Man Wood Services, and Steve Scaffidi

vocal local 1

1:45 pm on Sunday, November 25, 2012

Lets hear it for the boys Especially, Mayor Scaffidi. I wish I could have been there. How long did it take the mayor to make the correct decision and vote? They did it right for a change except I hear the ald. from the first wasn't up to speed AGAIN and voted in favor.
Now that they appear to be heading in the right direction maybe they can figure out a way to stop unnecessary spending like hundreds of thousands of dollars to market the city via a Marketing firm and all the collusion with Wis. Park. Were in a depression. STOP SPENDING, We don't need to contribute 140,000 of the ten million debt borrowing for a bike and foot path. FEW ARE GOING TO USE a bike and walking path in the middle of NO WHERE. and CUT CUT CUT.

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Resident of O.C. Paul

2:57 pm on Sunday, November 25, 2012

I don't see how this could be any more of an eyesore than what already exists. And if the city wants to talk about eyesores then the city should look in it's own back yard, it has a couple of piles of compost sitting just off of Peutz Rd at their public works building and waste collection.recycling center.

As far as the smell goes, I've been on farms, and they smell better than some of the smells that come from the water treatment plant, and some peoples' houses.

Telling others to keep things clean on their property while you leave a mess on yours is called...HYPOCRISY.

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Mike in OC

9:25 pm on Sunday, November 25, 2012

This is just all political payback... if you look at the previous article on the subject... it comments Catherine Roeske (the current city clerk) as well as Mark Verhalen who owns property near the site..... nice to see Chicago politics in Oak Creek. The only thing that smells in this deal is coming from City Hall.

vocal local 1

1:27 am on Monday, November 26, 2012

Mike, I don't think you've got this one right. Chicago politics would go something like a denial for the Greenman and Verhalen would take over the composting for the zoo and make a profit. Less than a mile away we have LaPine. His composting was limited and he has lots of restrictions.

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Resident of O.C. Paul

9:34 am on Monday, November 26, 2012

This is Oak Creek...a semi rural suburb in Milwaukee county. I moved to the city because it's semi rural, close enough to Milwaukee for convenience, but far enough away that you get the feeling of living in the country...which is what Oak Creek used to be.

Oak Creek is trying to bring the big city lifestyle to the community, and in the process lose what charm it has, all for the almighty $.

Also, there are people moving into the city not knowing that it is semi rural, they see the sights, hear the sounds, and smell the smells of such a community, and find them to be...not what they want. So they complain about them and force the government to ban them, in effect forcing what they want onto the rest of the community, instead of moving to a city like Milwaukee where these sights, smells, and sounds do not exist.

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TIM S.

2:30 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012

Get a clue Paul. You got it ass backward.

Steve

12:14 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012

I think this whole thing is hilarious, here you have Mark Verhalen who spread thousands of tons of sewer sludge ( human feces) on his farm land complaining about smell. Sewer sludge is linked to more birth defects, cancer, and respiratory issues than you could imagine. Now he wants to build houses on that land? .....and he's complaining about a pile of fruit?.......he should work for the Bush administration! You wont catch my kids playing on those lots.

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TIM S.

12:56 pm on Monday, November 26, 2012

To all you posters that think the city made the wrong decision on this issue just remember what goes around comes around. If one of your neighbors decides to dump animal waste and tons of rotting fruit and veggies within hundreds of feet from your spread without any permits or knowing I just wonder how long it would take for you hypocrites to complain to city hall.

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Doing the Right Thing

4:11 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

Going Green is one thing, bringing truckloads of manure from the Milwaukee County Zoo is another. If you lined up 5000 cubic yards, which is what was proposed, it would stretch from Howell and Puetz to Puetz and Pennsylvania. Do your research OC. There are MANY other ways to compost without dumping truckloads of Zoo feces and spoiled food into a neighborhood. Check out the Seagulls on Nicholson Road, flying rodents feeding on garbage. Mike in OC appears to have an answer for everything, sounds like he should run for president and run the free world.

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Mike in OC

11:22 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

@doing the right thing.... Thanks for the compliment! Would you vote for me if i run? Should you have any specific questions that you need answered.... really about anything as I'm pretty well rounded, just hit me up in my inbox. I would be more than happy to help out a fellow OC'er.

vocal local 1

3:37 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012

Steve why weren't you at the meetings? Then you might know what your ranting about.
Ever heard of zoonosis? Your not going to get that from Mark's farm. You are correct in that Cheryl and Mark's mother both died of brain cancer. Both worked at Delphi and the cancer was associated with the work place. You and most of the neighbors moved next to a working farm that was here before the city became a city. Lung Cancer from a farm when we live under the 6th largest coal plant in the USA? Greenman's original application cited 80% of his work would be conducted off site. He had numerous violations. The license from the DNR allowed 5000 cubic yards and it could have become a reality. A mountain of garbage on your street. Could you please identify how Greenman and Growing Power are assets to the city?

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TIM S.

11:41 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012

@ Steve... Real MEN get their facts straight before spouting off on things they don't know about. Neighbors met with the Gustin's and saw what the carnage was about. Obviously you did not get the full tour. So unless you live close by you have NO SAY on this. So keep your name calling and inane comments to yourself. If you post again GET SOME FACTS FIRST.

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Mark Schaaf

10:00 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012

had to delete a comment on this thread....gotta stick to the issues regarding Green Man and not personal attacks against others. Name calling, personal attacks, etc not allowed.

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