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How Much Do Mayor Candidates' Interests 'Conflict'?

Potential conflicts of interest a topic on the campaign trail.

 

Here is something likely to come up in Wednesday's mayoral candidate forum, scheduled for 7 p.m. at the Oak Creek Community Center and streamed live on Oak Creek Patch:

Do the three candidates' seats on other boards in the community conflict with the office of mayor?

The question first came up almost as soon as School Board member Mark Verhalen made clear his intent to run for mayor. But as the campaign has continued, it's also been asked of Tom Michalski, who sits on the Milwaukee Area Technical College Board of Directors, and Steve Scaffidi, a member of the Oak Creek Community Center Board.

The three had different things to say on the topic in interviews with Oak Creek Patch.

Verhalen said he does not plan to give up his school board seat if elected because the two governments are completely separate.

"The school system's a totally different entity than city government," he said. "What we do over there has nothing to do with the city. We dictate our own policy in dealing with the schools, teachers, curriculum, students. The city has nothing to do with things."

But Verhalen also said that serving in both capacities could improve the communication between the two entities on issues they work together on. Most notably, the recent discussions between the city and school district on a possible land swap next to Oak Creek High School has shown that a better relationship is needed, he said.

He could recuse himself in the event an issue presented itself, he said.

"I think it's a moot point. It's not a question," he said. "The question is well noted, but I don't think it's an issue. Just because I'm on the school board, does that negate me from trying to work anyplace else? Does that mean I can't serve on a committee for the sewage district or the Salvation Army?"

Verhalen also said his situation is no different than Scaffidi's and Michalski's.

Scaffidi, however, said he will resign from the community center board if elected, and remove himself from any other similar situations.

He said it's not enough to just recuse himself from specific votes or discussions.

"Mayor needs to participate. I'm all in," he said. "You're going to start excluding yourself from debates and voting because you have a conflict of interest? Immediately that throws up red flags for me. You've got some other allegiance that you have to weigh. I don't have that."

Michalski said he would consider giving up his seat on the MATC Board if it became too time-consuming to do both. But he rejected the notion of a conflict of interest, saying that state statute dictates that at least one elected official has to sit on the board.

"Any talk of a conflict of interest with me being up there, well you have to take that up to the state Legislature," he said. "And I can tell you that the state Legislature is not happy with the makeup of MATC Board of Directors. But when it's all said and done, they still want elected officials on the board.

"I think it works to the city of Oak Creek's benefit. Most of the students that attend MATC come from Milwaukee. The No. 2 city is Oak Creek. MATC has a campus right on Howell Avenue. We interact with MATC. It's another taxing agent - why wouldn't you want a representative from Oak Creek making sure that MATC is taxing the way you want them to tax and not going hog-wild?"

Related Topics: Aprl 2012 elections, Mark Verhalen, Milwaukee Area Technical College, Oak Creek Community Center, Oak Creek mayor's race, Oak Creek-Franklin School Board, Steve Scaffidi, Tom Michalski, and mayorsrace

Jill Schlidt

3:09 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Actually the Wisconsin School News published a legal comment in 2003 on this issue and noted that holding a School Board position and another elected municipal office may represent a conflict of interest and constitute “incompatibility” of the respective offices… It would be interesting to hear Superintendent Burmeister’s take on this.
http://www.wasbmemberservices.org/websites/legal/File/legal-comments/C200307.pdf

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Mark Schaaf

6:21 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

That article says that holding a school board position and a city council position are compatible, though it doesn't specifically address mayor.

According to Superintendent Burmeister, it would be up to the DA or Attorney General to make that determination after a citizen filed a formal complaint. Nothing precludes him from running for mayor.

Jenny

6:29 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I too have wondered how being mayor and on the school board could NOT be a conflict of interest. Which one would be sacrificed for the other and when? It seems almost impossible to think decisions about a school board issue could be made without also thinking how it will impact mayoral constituents. For example, Mark Verhalen sure seems to write a great deal about city spending on the Oak Creek Citizens Action website. Could he make sound, unbiased decisions about education and disregard his position as mayor and his overt issues on spending? This is particularly unsettling considering the overcrowding and large class sizes in our schools.

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Jeff Kuski

9:48 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

The Oak Creek Public Schools has one board member issue after another. It may be legal but it isn't good for our fair city. What would the Burmeister say about that one?

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Delphi Thieves

9:49 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

It's a shame that those of us who could truly lead the city would never dare run. So we are left with these awful choices.

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Connie Ploch

8:20 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Don't these two statements contradict each other?

"What we do over there has nothing to do with the city..."

"Most notably, the recent discussions between the city and school district on a possible land swap next to Oak Creek High School has shown that a better relationship is needed, he said."

How can an unbaised decision be made?

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curious1

10:26 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Looks like the candiate with the biggest conflict of interest is Tom Michalski - the conflict being his interest vs. the residents of his district. His actions last night
(pushing the City Hall vote through) were inexcusable. It's time for a new alderman in the 6th district.

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Be Logical

11:10 am on Saturday, February 11, 2012

Another big difference is that Michalski and Verhalen are paid by the School District and MATC. When you collect a paycheck from an employer, there is an expectation that you would always support their interests.

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