Resident Calls Zerban Ad a 'Lie'
Bristol and 1st District resident John Milligan says Rep. Paul Ryan's challenger is telling lies in his television ad.
The first TV commercial being run by Rob Zerban, Paul Ryan’s Congressional opponent, is both misleading and deceptive.
Zerban shows his blatant partisanship by inaccurately claiming that Congressman Ryan's budget “ends Medicare.” Politifact has labeled this fallacy their "Lie of the Year in 2011" and Politifact Wisconsin has declared his ad’s claim as a PANTS ON FIRE lie. We deserve better than these tired tactics. The truth is that Obamacare “ends Medicare as we know it” by taking $716 billion out of Medicare to pay for Obamacare.
Medicare is going bankrupt in a little over a decade, and Paul Ryan’s budget proposes no changes for individuals age 55 and over with respect to Medicare. It gives future seniors the option of staying in traditional Medicare or choosing from a number of Medicare-approved plans that better meet their health-care needs.
Preserving Medicare for current seniors and giving future seniors the option of staying in this system or choosing another plan isn't privatizing it, particularly since future seniors would have the choice of staying in the current Medicare system if they want. Instead of lying about Paul Ryan’s plan to ensure Medicare delivers on its promise, Rob Zerban would be wise to come up with solutions of his own.
John Milligan
Bristol, WI
James R Hoffa
12:54 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
@John Milligan - thank you for calling out the Zerban attacks for what they truly are - LIES from a man with no plan of his own to point to!
ROMNEY/RYAN/THOMPSON 2012!!!
Tansandy
5:00 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Zerban is just like all the rest of the liberals running for office. They suddenly at election time discover a "middle class". As usual, after the elcetion they won't know us!!
oldmoderate
8:02 am on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I am pleased to see that the conservatives are starting to value the truth. Politifact has evaluated 33 of Paul Ryan's recent statements and identified 3 as actually true. That is a "truth-telling" percent of 9%. A very low bar, indeed! Let's watch both these guys carefully and hold them both to the same standard.
James R Hoffa
1:27 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
@oldmoderate -
Rachel Maddow of MSNBC stated that Politifact is not a reliable so-called 'fact-checking' organization.
Personally, Hoffa doesn't trust any of the so-called 'fact-checkers,' as how do you know that they aren't biased, and who fact-checks the so-called 'fact-checkers?' There are many self-declared 'fact-checkers' out there, and rarely do the so-called 'fact-checkers' fully agree with one another. Isn't that proof enough that these so-called 'fact-checkers' aren't worth a second of your time - that is of course if you value accurate information?
Try researching the primary sources for yourself, making your own analysis, and coming to your own conclusions - that what us big boys call 'thinking.'
Instead of entrusting the task of thinking to third party secondary sources, as doing so only makes you a lazy sheep/lemming!
oldmoderate
4:07 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Greetings Mr Hoffa,
So am I to assume that you are criticizing John Miligan for his "lazy sheep/lemming" opinion piece?
James R Hoffa
4:37 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
@oldmoderate -
Mr. Milligan appropriately identified his letter as representing a subjective opinion.
To the contrary, Politifact asserts that their assessments are premised upon objective facts, when in reality, they aren't always.
Start thinking for yourself.
Greg
4:35 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
I would like to hear about his two business that he is using to prop up his qualifications.
oldmoderate
11:41 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012
Greetings again, Mr Hoffa,
So you support Mr Milligan's subjective opinion based upon faulty Politifact assessments but you criticize my suggestion that we hold both candidates to the same standard that Mr Milligan is holding Rob Zerban. I am thinking for myself and I appear to be thinking differently than you.
James R Hoffa
12:09 am on Friday, October 19, 2012
@oldmoderate -
Greetings again - hope you're doing well!
Mr. Milligan's subjective opinion is premised upon his conclusions that Zerban erroneously alleges that "Congressman Ryan's budget “ends Medicare,"" which happens to be correct and premised upon the objective facts of Congressman Ryan's budget proposals, which does not end Medicare, whether or not Politifact correctly assessed the situation or not.
As to your suggestion that the candidates should be judged on equal standards, Hoffa does not disagree - but using Politifact upon which to base such a standard would not be employing equality or uniformity, as Politifact doesn't assess every statement made (so there's some bias in the selection of what is being assessed) and they aren't always correct in their assessments (often times relying upon the third party opinions of so-called experts, as opposed to objective and indisputable facts).
Again - think for yourself. That is all that Hoffa asks.
If you're a Zerban supporter, then Hoffa asks you to explain the math of Zerban's plan to grow the economy while balancing the federal budget, as Zerban pretty much parrots Obama, and the math of Obama's plan just doesn't add up. As Romney asserted at the last debate, another four years of Obama would mean another 4-5T in additional accrued federal debt. And Obama did not dispute this FACT.
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