It happened 11years ago when he was 19.
Pretty weak smear attempt, Bewildered.

Prof. No smear, just facts...although nice try at dusting this one under the rug.

Bewildered, shall we start to dig out the skeletons that are in the closets of elected republicans? I know for sure that we can find more of them than you can find for elected democrats!

country boy

10:03pm on Tuesday, August 2, 2011

Prof. No smear, just facts...although nice try at dusting this one under the rug.
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Hey country boy,
Prof added other facts-context to the issue. We -and no doubt you also-have all done stupid things when we were younger that we are ashamed of. It is evident that Chris has grown up and is a productive citizen. Now it is time for you to grow up and bury the hatchet.

You guess wrong.

Wrong as usual, but thanks for playing.

Nope

Prof....it is still a ticket = violation of law. No mud, just the facts. So, you are ok to let this guy have his hands on state money? Think again. Another brush of the lib dirt under the rug by you again.

Sharon,
Please watch this video: http://youtu.be/2wpqID0iZSc Go to about 50 sec. in . Then ask yourself. "Is this how Wisconsin should do the people's business?" Pass a bill that will erase 100 years of WI history in about 10 secs? If you truly believe that it is sad indeed.

Patt forgot to note, that many Moore signs on Vine St. have mysteriously "disappeared". GOP "signlifters perhaps"?

Bewildered is not from Hudson. He is from about 5 hrs SW of Hudson. I no longer feed the trolls as it is a waste of time. I would suggest that Don Van look at the states schools at large and thier finances as a whole... This is not good for education in the state nor it's students..

Bill Gates, thanks for the information on Bewildered. That suggest to me that he is either a republican staffer, or he gets paid for writing his hatred comments in discussion boards.

We are not living in Appelton, we are here in Hudson! I am way more interessted what the Walker bill did to the Hudson School District! And it did hurt the Hudson District pretty bad! They had to lay off several teachers, teachers aids and administrative staff, and still have quite a money hole in their budget. They have to increase the mill rate and that means, our taxes will go up!
If you are from Appleton, why are you advertising for Harsdorf? Or are you, like Bewildered, a person who is paid for by the Reps to write here?

Hey Don Van
Educate yourself and do some reading outside of articles that sweet talk Walker.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/08/991883/-Scott-Walkers-bogus-claim-of-school-budget-success

...But as Greg Sargent points out:

But here’s the thing: The collective bargaining ban, in and of itself, was not responsible for achieving these savings and this surplus. As the Appleton Post Crescent reports, the teachers union had already offered up financial concessions that would have produced almost identical savings and an almost identical surplus.

Walker's union-busting was always about union-busting, not about cost savings; the fact that he persisted in eliminating collective bargaining after public employee unions made financial concessions is really all the evidence you need of that.

Hudsoner: I live in River Falls but lived in Appleton 10 years ago and I support Harsdorf because I love our state and am concernd about what the cost of government is doing to the state and future of my grandchildren. Would Hudson have laid off less personnel if the Budget Repair bill hadn't been passed? Guess what, the answer is no.
Morninmist Same: I have followed the Appleton school district issue since the announcement of the budget repair came out. The teachers union offered up almost identical savings AFTER they knew that Walkers program was going to pass even though Senators were leaving the state. Check out the timetable with some source other than the dailykos.

Andy, I think Shelly Moore accurately pointed out that businesses are not going to create jobs when there is no demand for their goods and services. The false notion that Supply side economics works should be abundantly clear to anyone who has an once of objectivity and common sense in them. Large corporations continue to downsize and lay off workers. Corporate profits are at record levels, the Bush tax breaks have been extended. All factors that supposed would create jobs under the "Supply side, trickle down economic theory". So I'm asking the same question as you. Where are the jobs, job creators?

@THII, many people that are complaining here seem not to have the slightest knowledge of how big corporations function. Tax incentives are mostly no reason for creating jobs. Tax incentives are only good for the shareholders, because they reduce the burden rate for those companies and allow a higher profit margin. And i am happy about it, because that makes my income grow a little more and helps my stock options to have a little more value. But new jobs are rarely created because of those incentives. On the other hand, with the trickle down theory, I will have a little more money in my hands in a few years and will spend this money. But that might be for a nice Carolinian cruise, but certainly not for some more goods from Wisconsin!

The best way to deal with a poster like Bewildered is to flag his post and move on.
Don't feed the ...

So prof, what in my above post is deserving your ultimate threat.... " flagging" ? Still wanting to censor anyone different than you, I see.

So Thurston, thx for recognizing my right to post, seriously thx. My forehead comment was an attempt to lighten up the tone of this string. If you want to see me commenting on issues, go back and read my comment string. I must warn you, in case you haven't figured it out, I am an conservative (no way a tea party advocate,
never been to a rally or event, never will). I'm actualy an ex-hippie from the 60s who marched for civil rights and against the Vietnam war in DC, literally. Today I consider myself a social moderate and a fiscal conservative. I'm sure. Many of you will reply calling me far worse names. Bottom line is I believe you don't spend what you don't have, in a balanced budget ( just like my personal budget) , less gov interference in my life and the right for peaceful protests (which I don't consider the Madison protests to have been). Above alll, I hate censorship which over the last days I have seen attempted by some on the Hudson Patch. That's why I'vebeen posting on
Hudson Patch. Your editor and some posters have truest eliminate " nom de plums " like " bewildered" "prof" and "Thurston ". It's all there in Hudson Patch over the past few days, if Foley hasnt deleted it already.

@ Bewildered, Well welcome to the club of ex protesters from the late sixties! That, by the way, was the last time that I marched in the streets, until my wife and I got activated again because of Walker and his illegal actions!

What I can't understand, if you believe we should not spend what we don't have, how on earth can you be for the Walker agenda? He spends millions and millions of dollars to give presents to the rich and big companies. after that he declares the state to be broke, and want's to get his wasteful spending back from the little people and education! I have a very hard time to believe what you state here!

It's all about Walker having the first balanced budget in years. He made tough decisions, not all I agree with, but bottom line is he balanced the budget without raising taxes. Re: corporate tax breaks, if you read the budget, these breaks are only for those who bring in new jobs to the state. If we don't encourage business to come/ stay in Wi, jobs will never grow and more financial burdens will fall on taxpayers. I know you and most on Patch disagree, but I firmly believe Walker is putting the state back on track after the Doyle years.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the same Billionaires that fund the Heritage Foundation, The CATO institute, The Americans for Prosperity, oh yeah did I forget to mention being son of a co founder of the John Birch Society, and a host of other front organizations are the same people funding Walker and Bush. So actually Bewildered, we could go a loooong way back.

May be, he knows already, and him being in Hudson was OK with most of his voters? After all, he was not recalled, Sheila Harsdorf is!

I wonder why it was so easy for Gov. Walker to get away from his busy agenda of screwing over Wisconsin's working and middle class to come here to Hudson for his "behind closed door's " PR event for Sheila Harsdorf? And here's here's another little detail you forgot to mention. Larson didn't need a battery of Armed Men in uniforms paid for by local taxpayers. The Walker event was by invitation only, men with guns kept me out, while you could have simply walked in the door at the old library and listen to Larson.

The difference is the left has already shown their inability to be civil. No one from the right has disrupted events, commerce, and government, only the left. Why would anyone want to see Larson anyway?

C'mon Mainstreet, Sheila Harsdorf has hardly been civil to Shelly Moore - especially in that last debate. I'd say that there has been plenty of incivility from all sides. Do you think that the names the right-wing talking heads have called the President of the United States lately show respect or civility? I don't know about you, but I'm sick of it.

I agree the name calling is ridiculous but that's all it is = name calling. Whereas disrupting commerce, government, and events is physical. Big difference. BTW Jeff said he tried to win for you Sunday but came up about 2 laps short :)

I agree, there is a big difference. I do think that sometimes it takes a demonstration to get a point across - especially when our elected officials aren't listening.

I still think my man Jeff had the faster car, but I'm happy Menard won. Besides Jeff is up to 7th now in the standings, I think. And I think he's going to win Pocono.

@ Hudsoner,
Maybe before you comment on the recall process, you should understand how the process works. He is not being recalled because he is NOT ELIGIBLE to be recalled. He has not been in office for a year. He needs to be careful because he was elected because he picked the right election to run in when conservatives were forced to vote on the Republican side. Jeff Plale had the support of many conservatives in this district and given the chance, would have helped him defeat Larson in the primary. If he is not recalled next year, chances are good the runaway thief will only serve one term.

You're funny JPN!

And I did not know about the National Night out until I read it here on the patch. But our neighbors and we went out and had a few cold ones. i hope that was enough celebration for that night (thank God for a wife who doesn't like to drink adult beverages)

Just a respect thing JPN... Chris Larson seems to stay away while others who held his office before him were out in the district they represent. Haven't seen Larson anywhere. 4th of July, Night out, no where.. That was my point that I think most people got. There was a democrat in that seat before who I voted for and was a lot more out in the open and got things done. Listened to the community a lot. Don't see any of that from this guy. But keep making jokes your funny as hell...

Unfortunately, as matters progress on both the local and national level, the stooping just seems to be getting blatantly lower and lower...

Please man... Both parties stoop too new lows.. How about having block parties and giving away free food then bus people to the polls ( only to vote for who they tell you, democrat) in these recall races... Or elected democratic officials kids slashing tires of buses for the republican headquarters years ago or maybe be the cigarettes to the homeless for a Gore vote.. I can go on and on.. So please stick the issues and don't post that worthless garbage. Balance a budget and live within your means as government and maybe you will get more votes.. That's all I ask. Millions of Americans LIVE WITHIN THERE MEANS.. is it too much to ask for government to do the same ???

@ Andy
And which services are to be eliminated? Oh yes, education stinks, that should be cut, or?
How about creating a mess by giving huge tax breaks and other money gifts to a very few and have the rest of the working people and retirees pay for it, and call that balancing the budget?

Andy,
Thanks for proving my point. Stick to the points? Al Gore??? It's not just about balancing a budget, it's about how you balance a budget. Many people live within their means by going around the rules and also by neglecting their responsibilities. That is what is happening in WI. Is it too much to ask for government to live within it's means by following the rules and also living up to it's responsibilities?

That's all I ask...

The 500 point drop today is not a reaction to debt "deal". It is a reaction to the unstable European economy. Blaming Obama for the country's financial situation is ludicrous. He inherited a nightmare and tried to implement a stimulus package (which the majority of economists agree is the correct action to take in battling a recession) but had it neutered by the republican party whose main initiative was (and still is) to deny him a second term regardless of the consequences to the American Economy. I agree that tough cuts are necessary but they should be made with the idea of fulfilling the responsibilities that the government has to it's ENTIRE population.

John I completely disagree with you on all that (except for tough cuts needed). The debt deal is mainly responsible for the dip today.. Go to any news website. Stimulus might of worked if there wasn't millions of dollars of wasted earmarks in it. What has he really done since to boost economy except extend Bush tax cuts ??? Pass a very questionable health bill and a terrible debt deal... GOOD DEBATING

here is the first link I pulled up:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44017828

I agree that there are many people who pay little or no taxes. Those that have the opportunity to make extraordinary amounts of money should be allowed to prosper. One can't forget that the only reason they have this opportunity is because of this country. There is a fiduciary and moral obligation that exists for those who prosper to also participate in the overall heath of the entire country. It's not about taking back, it's about keeping only what should rightfully be theirs. As long as their is a national economy, every citizen of this country should be guaranteed a minimum standard of life. Everything above that standard should then be taxed equally. That is not happening. I also agree about the elimination of Tax Loopholes but the argument against it is a claim of raising taxes by the right. As I stated before, actions should be taken towards balancing the budget but those actions should be (to borrow a term from FOX) fair and balanced. That is not what happened with Walker's balancing of Wisconsin's budget and that is the fight that Obama is losing at the National level.

Great with the labels. What then do you believe should be the minimum benefits of being a Citizen of the United States? Working to make the Rich richer? As long as we are using labels, how about Feudalism?

There should be no benefit for being a citizen of the US other than what is guaranteed by the constitution.

No TPer here, but what exactly were the entitlements given to the citizens in 1776, by the government, to "promote the general welfare"? I know for sure it wasn't some sort of guaranteed standard of life in the form of free cash.

Thank You!

Prof, Thanks for answering my question, like I really expected one. I'll make it easier for you. What exactly were the entitlements given to the citizens before 1930? Zip, zero, none. You worked hard, provided for yourself and family. The free stuff bunch didn't come around until FDR and they've been on a rampage since. Off course if you are a Prof, you're a card carrying member of the free stuff bunch. When I was growing up my parents taught me (and I then my child), work hard, get good grades, get a good job that provides health insurance, otherwise life can be tough. What did you parents teach you (and then you your kids)? Kick back, smell the flowers, slouch your way thru school because they'll hand diplomas to everybody, smoke a doob, and all yah, not to worry life is good, Uncle Sam will give you everything you need - at others expense?

My parents taught me similar things. I was also taught that if you are fortunate enough to have, help those who have not.

I agree John. We just have huge fundamental differences on how that happens.