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Viewfinder: The Madison Protests: More Photos Added

A slideshow of photos from Friday's protests at the Wisconsin Capitol over Gov. Scott Walker's budget repair bill, which includes a proposal to strip public employee unions of their collective-bargaining rights.

 
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Brendan O'Brien
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Gov. Scott Walker was escorted into the State Capitol by 20 police officers Friday, Feb. 18.
Gov. Scott Walker walks into the State Capitol on Friday. He said "No comment" to questions about the protests surrounding his budget proposal.
This protestor is yelling at Gov. Scott Walker as he enters the State Capitol building.

Thousands of people continued the massive drumbeat of protest Friday  throughout the Capitol Square in Madison showing their support to public  workers and their repudiation of Governor Scott Walker.

The protestors have descended onto Madison and the Capitol to  show their displeasure with the Governor's budget repair bill that, if  passed, would end collective bargaining for public employees throughout the  state. 

Were you at the protests? Add your photos! Tell us in the comments.

Voice of Reason

5:04 pm on Friday, February 18, 2011

Well this is what he said he was going to do if elected. I am sure the people that are protesting this are the ones that didnt vote for him or if they did and are part of a union, they have no choice but to protest otherwise they will be depicted as a "Scab". How come there isnt this big of an upset with Obama's Socalistic Healthcare? The reason is because Obama is a Democrat and since Unions are Liberals/Demcrats, they dare not protest the Healthcare bill.

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Voice of Reason

5:14 pm on Friday, February 18, 2011

When Obama wanted to control everything, where were the union protestors? Walker wants to fix the defict instead of crying because of Doyle. Now, reportedly many of them, such as teachers in Madison, get health care benefits worth more than $22,000 a year -- "free," quote, unquote. "Free," meaning they don't pay much for it, and that's one of the changes that the governor wants to implement: Have 'em pay a little bit of their own health care benefit. There are 300,000 public sector employees, many of them teachers with health care benefits worth more than $22,000 a year. You do the math. Just health care benefits: $22,000 times 300,000. Speaking of the media, where are all the headlines about the protesters in Wisconsin throwing a "temper tantrum"?
We always hear about Tea Party temper tantrums, voter temper tantrums. Here we have one. We have a genuine, petulant, immature, tireless bunch of bottom-feeder freeloaders acting in a temper tantrum. The unions in Washington are hiding behind "the children," the unions in Wisconsin are hiding behind "the children." They're using children as human shields, just like leftists and terrorists always do. Whoa! How else would you describe this? I have to admit, I'm seeing all these demonstrators and the kind of people involved... Now, I don't really hope this but I'm saying this to make a point. What would happen if the unions win and Governor Walker's reforms get defeated?

Norman Selle

5:40 pm on Friday, February 18, 2011

Voice of reason: you do have a voice, but there's no reason involved with anything you say.
Anyone spouting the right wing lies about Obama being a Socialist doesn't have an ounce of
sense. I'm certain that Walker would love it if there weren't young people involved so he
and his Club For Growth backers could bus in a bunch of armed Tea Party hooligans and have
a blood bath. Come to think of it, hearing rhetoric such as yours, I'm sure that you wouldn't
let children get in the way of killing some liberals. Hell, Beck, Savage and all the assorted
crazies on the right plead to you to do it all the time. You have one seriously warped
reality.

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scotch

9:35 pm on Friday, February 18, 2011

VOR didn't call Obama a Socialist, she called his health care package Socialistic.
I don't see the word "killing" in either of her posts, but I see it in yours.
TEA Party hooligans? Check your own signs.

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jimmy

10:04 pm on Friday, February 18, 2011

Voice of reason and others don't get the real scary thing here. Teachers etc... are willing to pay more for bennies. But what this is is a political move to weaken unions, the only powerful dem-leaning electoral money raisers and organizers, so they don't have the clout that they do. It's not to weaken unions so that they don't cost taxpayers money, its to weaken them so that Republicans can win elections. It's money and politics, its slimy and low. And its scary, and should concern everybody off all political persuasions.

Personally, I'm a Republican, and I consider it outlandishly radical and un-American. It's an assault on peoples rights disguised as a budget move. Budget repair bill. Think of how cynical this is, Voice of Reason. Think harder than you ever have before. And think for yourself.

I don't usually agree with unions, either, politically. But I do agree with the system of democracy that I live in here in America, and the governor has crossed a line here.

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richard

2:39 pm on Sunday, February 20, 2011

Democracy you say. You make me laugh!

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Mr. Conservative

4:57 pm on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Jimmy,if you're REALLY a Republican I would think you know a bit about the Constitution. SHow me where,in either the U.S. or State constitutions, where Collective bargaining is laid out as a "Right". You won't find it, because it's not in there,and that's because IT'S NOT A RIGHT. It's a priviledge that they bargained for that does not belong in public sector union negotiations. Pro-labor Icons like FDR and George Meanyboth were against CB for public sector unions because of the blatant unfaimess to the taxpayer.

Another thing, if you unionists love democracy soo much, why do you want to end secret ballots for union elections?? This card check system is totally undemocratic,yet all the unions want it. And why do you feel people HAVE TO belong to the union?? Or pay dues that are then used for candidates many members don't agree with. Where's the democracy in that??

Your realchants should be "Show me what socialism looks like, this is what socialism looks like"

scotch

11:06 pm on Friday, February 18, 2011

Following taken from Wisconsin Family Action website:

The main point of contention in the Governor’s budget fix bill is the provision limiting public sector union collective bargaining rights. The governor’s proposal limits such bargaining to base wages. Under the 1971 State Employment Labor Relations Act, public employees were able to bargain for wages, hours and conditions of employment. The bill does significantly weaken the power of public employee union negotiations.

There are several other aspects of the bill, but these are by far the most controversial.

We applaud the robust discussion and public input on this bill because we believe that is necessary in a government of, by and for the people. Unfortunately, union negotiations with state government have been a long, drawn-out process historically in Wisconsin – with negotiations taking an average of 15 months. Just last session, Democratic Governor Doyle and the then-Democratic majority in the legislature were involved in an 18-month-long negotiation with unions while employee contracts were on hold. It’s a very real problem, and one we cannot ignore. Thankfully, because of existing civil service protections and amendments to the bill, workplace protections for public employees remain intact.

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scotch

11:06 pm on Friday, February 18, 2011

Walker said in his 5PM speech today at the Capital that it's a tool that is needed for local school boards and municipalities because it allows the locals to prevent layoffs. Walker said when running Milwaukee, the State would cut funds and then he had to make local budget decisions. It was his job to figure out how to do without. When he went to the Unions to negotiate, the negotiations would drag out for 12-15 months and at the end they said just lay people off to make the budget. (my add: that is political suicide, just what one side would want to force the the other side to do?)
According to Walker, the removal of collective bargaining will allow for local officials to make cuts in entitlement spending to avoid furloughs and job loss. Walker said job loss is not the way to balance the budget, as many people working is needed, not less.
Try to get the whole speech. I don't feel he was spinning, but who knows?

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Brian Dey

7:43 am on Saturday, February 19, 2011

From one who negotiate two contracts with the REA, the last two I might add, they are lying when they say they are willing to give up bennies. Yes, only if you substantially raise their salary.

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scotch

8:28 pm on Saturday, February 19, 2011

Brian, I think therein lies the problem. Historically, a successful negotiation with most Unions, like when dealing with young children because they don't understand the word "no", is how much were negotiators able to hold back.
Walker is like the big, bad parent that won't allow that childish behavior.
It reminds when my wife and I were foster patents. Kids come in with attitudes that they can bully, manipulate and force their wills and actions on the foster parents. If you don't show who the alpha male is, so to speak, there is no discipline and all there is is chaos in the home.

Andy

2:43 pm on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Just a reminder::: EVERY union that represents workers for our FEDERAL GOVERNMENT have never and will never have collective bargaining RIGHTS.. I find it funny that Obama can get involved in states issues on the matter when his own party has never inacted such a right for his own workers. Not just Obama either. Clinton or any other Democratic President never felt collective bargaining was needed. An idea that has burried states into huge deficits. Imagine how much MORE in debt we would be on a Federal level if those unions had full control of the country like they do our state. But you don't see any Federal workers protesting Federal Senators fleeing the country like cowards..LET's VOTE ALREADY

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Mr. Conservative

4:48 pm on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Actually, I believe at one time Fed Employees did have CB priveledges (It's not really a "Right" leftys) but that evil conservative right winger Jimmy Carter stripped them of CB...Wait...Carter was a Left winger...oh the horror.

richard

5:02 pm on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

FDR did sign a bill that prevented them from organizing which was wonderful! Then a few GOV employees and so on went to court over the issue! Low and behold a lefty judge agreed that GOV emploees have the right to unionize and the right for CB! Its terrible! 10% of our people are unemployed loosing their homes, not able to feed their children and yet the unions, GOV employees dare protest! How dare they! This is the well to do looking out for each other!
I believe in the right to unionize in the private sector! When GOV employee unionize where is my say on the bargaining! That's the thing we are their employees yet we do not have a say in what they make or the benies they receive! Not a true negotiation!

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Mr. Conservative

5:08 pm on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Correst Richard. I regard CB for Public sector likeinviting your Sons girlfreind over to do your bargaining for you on how much allowance you're going to give your Son. Will she really have your best interests at heart when she knows the more $$ he gets the more he'll spend on her??? Likewise, Dem politicians know they're going to get a ton of $$ for their campaigns from unions so why save the Taxpayers money/

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