"Hovde spends his own money, while Baldwin prefers to spend other people's money - no surprises there!"
So you must really despise Walker & his little money grubbing out of state circus to entertain the ultra rich so they'll fund his campaign.

You wanted the recall, you got the recall and all that comes with it. Cry more

Look a chicken!

@Bren -

So, how exactly do you feel about all of George Soros' off shore investments and accounts? Didn't you say that you were a member of his 'Great Society' or 'Open Society' organization? How can you stand being affiliated with such an unpatriotic individual such as Soros?

So, do you automatically dismiss any candidate for public office that Soros supports?

"So, how exactly do you feel about all of George Soros' off shore investments" Excellent point Hoffa. Once again Bren shows us the double standard the Democrats use. She becomes more transparent everyday!!!!!!

If you have investments in any international company, does that make you unpatriotic?

Hoffa, Democrat supporters patriotism is balanced out because they are......
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well, Democratic supporters!

Your assumption that anyone who holds an off shore bank account is unpatriotic is nothing short of disgusting. Anything to take the focus off of the real issues and who is in charge right now. It is obvious, as you and the others on the left, have repeatedly demonstrated, there is nothing you won't do to change the topic. It is not illegal, immoral or unpatriotic to possess off shore accounts but a decision made by an informed individual to avoid you liberal pick pockets from distributing our wealth. What was the words you used, SHAME>SHAME>SHAME!!!

Bren@ Are you aware of the many offshore accounts that President Obamas cabinet members are currently holding?

That's the thing about opinions--they are opinions. These are my opinions. My ancestors helped found this country. I have also lived for a time in a socialist country and I returned to the U.S. with an even more profound love and respect for all this country has done for the good around the world. When everyone here does their honest part, amazing things happen. Squirreling away money to avoid supporting democracy (and we know there are terrorists and foreign governments who would love to see it fail) is indeed patriotic in my opinion.

Gregory, I take no issue with foreign investments or companies, everyone needs a job (with decent pay and working conditions). I do think that people should pay taxes on their income, whatever the source.

Michael, you are welcome to your opinion as I am to mine. I'm disgusted by your disgust! ; )

Ben, I honestly don't know and I'd appreciate your explanation of how political affiliation lessens or exacerbates the negative impact of an offshore account on the U.S. economy.

@Bren -

Why did you conveniently fail to respond to Hoffa's query into an apparent hypocrisy contained within your original comment in this thread?

I believe my points are clear Mr. Hoffa?

@Brent... I have off-shore accounts (investments) too. I make all of a 5 figure salary and my foreign investments are in my 401K... As are most peoples. The whole "off shore" doesnt mean anything unpatroitoic, shady or anthing other that smart investing.

I for one would rather see someone smart get elected for a change

As for your idea of how to measure patriotism, i would like to suggest another yard stick... How about someone that buys into the american dream? Work hard, get an education and you can do better that your parents... and with a little luck could become very wealthy too. I dont know about you but i think my kids have a better chance where free market opportunities exist, not government mandates and regulations.

At least that is a lot less racist than assuming that the black president would not be born in the US.

Keith - It appears your Starbucks still has electricity after the storm.

Keith:

Are black people often assumed to be born outside the US? Not sure I am understanding why you think that Obama's race has something to do with the question of his birthplace.

Personally I don't care about the tax returns. I'm more concerned about evidence indicating that Mitt was still filing papers that he was CEO of Bain in 2002 while telling the American public that he left Bain in 1999. If he was CEO he was CEO. Maybe some would bust his chops about the outsourcing but this part might have been avoided (if true).

As we all have to live with election results, I'm going to say one name for the upcoming GOP convention: Jon Huntsman.

We all have to live with election results? Did you not participate in the re-do of the Wisconsin governor's election a month ago? Haven't you noticed that the dems have been in a 'we don't have to live with election results' mode for the past 18 months or so?

►I'm more concerned about◄ [insert crazy left wing not important but let's make is a big deal with lies and slander I herd on MSNBSAD this morning]

Bren, you're voting for Obama. We can drop the daily concerned about nonsense.

@Cowdung - Seems you were one of the snivellers about the Wangaard defeat. in Racine. Live by the election results, show some character.

What gave you the impression that I was one of the 'snivelers' about the Waangard defeat? I don't live in Racine, and I don't think that I made any comments that claimed that Waangard was wronged. The only comments I recall making had to do with the difference in attitudes toward the election irregularities in Waukesha and those in Racine.

And Dirk proves that he's little more than the left-wing partisan hack that he is with an apparent reading comprehension issue to boot!

@Cowdung - I never expressed an attitude about the Waukesha election fiasco, yet you replied to my post about the Racine election with that mention, asking me to compare the attitudes, apparently implying I agreed with some that thought there was corruption in Waukesha.
I will comment now. I worked in IT for many years. There are just some people that just do not understand how many things can go wrong with a computer system. Confidence like she had is a killer in IT Test, test, test. The County Clerk was wrong for the job, she is resigning, and even Republicans elect poor choices like her. But she was just a blundering sycophant, not corrupt, promoted beyond her competency, and that was always my opinion.

You certainly labeled those complaining about what happened in Racine as a bunch of crybabies because they weren't happy with the election results, yet I don't recall seeing your similar comments toward those complaining about what happened in Waukesha. I was addressing what I saw as an inconsistency in your statements, not sniveling about Waangard's election loss.

@Hoffa - Gutzmiller says you bring a lot of cred to the discussion when you state you admire the real Hoffa as a Conservative. He was convicted of jury tampering, attempted bribery, and fraud, and spent years in the Pen. He was affiliated with the Mob, and Richard Nixon pardoned him. Declared dead in absentia, probably wearing concrete overshoes today. Quite a role model, more like a dictator.
I do admire his son's rhetorical skills, also named Jimmy Hoffa, as head of the Teamsters today. His famous 'Let's Take These Son of a Bitches Out!' (in reference to extreme rightwingers like you) was a gem.

@Gutzmiller -

All of those charges were little more than a trumped up railroad job orchestrated by the biggest criminals and hypocrites of them all, the Kennedy's! Hoffa was a model inmate, often consulting the guards on their personal problems. Hoffa also never claimed to be anything more than what he really was, nor did he ever claim to be righteous, unlike the lying Kennedy's! All of the Vegas loans were legit! Test Fleet was legit! You trash the mafia despite the fact that Hoffa's loans from the pension fund to organized crime actually made money for the union, which is more than I can say for the Court order trustees that took over the stewardship of the Central State's Pension Fund! You know only what the great Democratic propaganda machine wants you to believe. Try reading some of Hoffa's books - it may wake you up to some realities not found in the mainstream history books!

James P. is unfortunately misguided in his ideology and apparently never bothered to read his father's books. There's not much more that can be said about this.

Steve, the Boston Globe, one of my daily online reads, is covering the story. My point is always this, isn't it better to own up, face the music and move on?

I supported the recall because Scott Walker misrepresented himself and his agenda in 2010. People should have the opportunity to vote for the "real" Scott Walker. Now we all have to deal with him until 2014. I just hope his antics can be kept to a minimum.

Yes, I'm voting for Barack Obama. But if he loses the election, the winner will represent our country here and on the world stage. You do realize that extradition requests have been filed on Dick Cheney and other former Bush administration officials in other countries, don't you? (activated or not). If Mitt wins and brings back a phalanx of the same Bush advisors that brought us to war in 2 countries and near economic collapse, it's unlikely to inspire confidence abroad (to say the least). Again, one name in the event of a brokered convention: Jon Huntsman.

@Hoffa - You are indeed proficient at shining up a lump of coal to look like gold. You may be one of the few Americans that would go so far as to proclaim the real Hoffa's innocence, honesty, and all around virtues., and implications that the Kennedys had some small part in his disappearance, versus Salvatore "Sally Bugs" Briguglio, along with Briguglio's brother Gabriel, the brothers Stephen and Thomas Andretta, Chuckie OBrien, Tony Pro "Big Boy" Provenzano, Frank "the Irishman" Sheeran, Tony Jack Giacalone, and/or Russell Bufalino. "Milwaukee Phil" Aldarisio, a local favorite, was dead by this time.

You are also good at shining up extreme right wing politics.

I see the correlation.

How many of those 41 will get pardoned the day before Barack Hussein Obama leaves office?

I put the over/under at 52

Auntie, you can fume all you want, but your party is stuck with a really inept candidate. The fact that they are brute stupidly throwing mud with four months to go as opposed to the shrieking Sarah did over just two weeks at her Bund rallies.

Conserva(a great new baby name for the extreme right) chick (sexist and deprecating) - Who said those government employees were all Democrats? The linked blog also mentioned the House and Senate. Bush ran the Exec. Depts. for eight years, and most employees, particularly lower level, carry over from administration to administration. Presidents do not just hire members of their own party either. And what is meant by "back taxes"? Lots of appeals steps, etc. before the IRS comes down hard, which they should on true tax evaders.

Keith,

What does it say of an incumbent when all the ads they run are attack ads? Since they have NOTHING good to run on, and no accomplishments, which group is really incompetent.

Well, that isn't seething with hatred and ignorance now is it?

When is your nurse coming around with the meds?

Steve, are you recommending some Second Amendment remedies to deal with the Democrat problem? ; )

@ Steve Welcenbach
We are well on our way there. We need to view them as life or death adversaries and conduct our activities with this always in mind. Another wacko righty ! Is this something that you disscuss at your KKK meetings on Tuesday nights ?

Thanks for setting me straight, Steve! ; )

Hoffa - Of course I am not religiously biased! Just the facts?. The fastest growing religion percentage wise is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Most are solid Republicans. The Republican future is just a projection of the past and present.
J.B. Schmidt's hero, Ronald Reagan truly admired the Latter-day Saints. Reagan's administration included more members of the Church than any other American president, ever. Three served on his personal White House staff. Richard Wirthlin was his chief strategist. Ted Bell served as Secretary of Education, Angela Buchanan was Treasurer, Rex Lee was Solicitor General. His White House included Roger Porter, Brent Scowcroft, Richard Beal, Blake Parish, Jon Huntsman Jr., Dodie Borup and Rocky Kuonen, and there were many other Latter-day Saints throughout his Administration.
Fast forward to today. In the Republican primaries, we had Huntsman and Romney. Romney is the winner of those primaries. We will be learning so much about Mormonism in the coming months, and years if Romney wins.

My beloved parents died Mormons, and my dear sister and nephew are devout Mormons.

Yes--by 'less government', we of course favor a system with no government at all--total anarchy.

Frances:

Why don't you address actual policy proposals rather than trying to paint republicans as extremists?

Frances, I share your bemusement when trying to determine what the right-wing ideal of government should be. Articles of Confederation, perhaps a return to state-issued currency? So dirt roads and brigands (which in the 21st Century could be starving call center workers whose jobs have been outsourced-brutes! Don't leave your automatic assault rifles at home!). Carts and plows would naturally be pulled by Democrats and moderate independents. Women have a hard time walking because they must keep that aspirin between their knees (and probably will wear ankle monitors to ensure it). No homes will have curtains so the government minister/agents don't have to get out of their carts to make sure premarital romping or other hanky-panky is going on (extramarital romping is a-ok). Loudspeakers proclaim alliterative, uplifting slogans to keep everyone self-satisfied. And when necessary or just to be a sore winner, raid the homes of liberals to burn books that contain words with more than 3 syllables and throw those degree certificates on the pyre, too.
; )

Frances,

Turning back the clock to 2006 levels would be an excellent start. Things started to fall apart after the Democrats took over congress in 2006. Nancy Pelosi is not your friend, nor is Harry Reid.

The image I get of the extreme right's vision for the future is a cross between the Wild West and Somalia. A very weak government, rule by force, very open carry (with assault rifles), people dying early from lack of healthcare, vigilantes, piracy, religious strife, bad water, warlords, terrorists, poor education, refugees, Mormons.

@Dirk -

Wow - did you ever drink the left-wing kool-aid!

Do I detect an anti-Mormon sentiment in your rant?

@Hoffa - Ok, what is your vision for the Republican future?
Gee, don't let me and other lefties define it for you as interpreted from your posts. Please involve healthcare, guns, unions, food stamps, education, minorities, illegal immigration, role of the central government, privacy, and what to do with "lefties".
As to Mormons, they are obviously in the Republican future image.

@Dirk -

Without getting too specific, here's Hoffa's image on the requested issues/topics:

Healthcare - For U&C care, everyone pays their own way directly. Catastrophic insurance coverage offered by a quasi-government agency as well as private providers. Reform Medicare to a self-sustaining program without the need to raise revenue rates on anyone. Clean up Medicare so that only the truly worth are receiving its services. Institute market based reforms including loser pays (English rule) on med malprac claims, up-front pricing on standard/routine procedures/treatments/examinations, and the expansion of non-taxable HSA's.

Guns - Abide by the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution. Anyone who abuses the right (by committing weapon crimes) will forever lose such right in this country.

Unions - Abolish all public sector unionization. Private sector unionization is fine, but workers must be given the option to join and the unions must be re-certified annually by the membership. Those declining to join will not be privy to any union benefits negotiated under the union contracts or protections

Food Stamps - Provide to those who are truly incapable of helping themselves, but monitor to make sure they are being used righteously. Provide as a supplement only when absolutely necessary to those who have liquidated their assets down to necessities only, are helping themselves, but are still having problems making ends meet. Eliminate for everyone else.

Education - Support public education but focus on efficiency and effectiveness. Enact and use emergency manager laws, ala Govenror Rick Snyder of Michigan, so that if the residents of a district continuously elect incompetent board members, like MPS and RUSD, and constantly expect the state to bail them out when they make bad decisions, such boards can be overridden and the state can come in and clean house.

Minorities - I'm not sure what you're getting at here. What's good for the country is good for all of it's residents, regardless of skin color or ethnicity. End affirmative action and quota systems in all public and private institutions. Prohibit any governmental / public sector groups that associate according to skin color or ethnicity, such as the Congressional Black Caucus. Start acting like one people - Americans!

Illegal Immigration - Zero tolerance! If you're here illegally and get caught - you're gone. No exceptions. Streamline the process for legal immigration. Secure our borders.

Role of the Central Government - Constitutionally limited and/or as the mass of the people of the nation desires. Balanced budget with the taking on of publicly issued debt only being authorized in extreme and certain limited circumstances.

Privacy - Absolute except where national security is concerned.

What to do With "Lefties - They're just as a part of this country as sliced bread. Continue to debate them and continue to beat them with the facts.

Yep, I see that you're a religious bigot!

Hoffa - Thanks for you vision of the future, policy wise. This took some time to do, and I appreciate your efforts.You do assert the role of government in some social needs, the existence of private unions in a limited way: functional public education, etc. In that sense, you are not as extreme as you often portray.

Catastrophic health insurance is good for those with the means to cover their own moderate medical expenses without bankruptcy or great hardship. In other words,the upper middle class and above. Would the government role in this to be concerned with coverage for those with pre-existing conditions?

Most of your other positions are predictably disguised to benefit those of your race, income and social position, though virtually no one disagrees with stopping people from getting government benefits if they do not deserve them.

What I am really looking for is, if all your positions came true, what would society look like? Visualize a movie with a cast of millions and special effects.

@Dirk -

Well, under Obama and the liberal Dem vision, our future would look like Brazil (1985), 1984 (1984), THX 1138 (1971), Logan's Run (1976), Soylent Green (1973), Dark City (1998), Motorama (1991), Prayer of the Rollerboys (1990), etc.

Under Hoffa's vision, our future would look so bright, you'd have to wear shades! It would actually look a lot like Roddenberry's Star Trek!

J.B. - A little diploma envy from you perhaps? You really should be in school instead of hanging around home all day.
What are your credentials for being a spokesman for the Republicans?

Yes, as entertainment

@Steve - Your attempts at comedy are hilarious, Not the comedy, just the banal, boorish attempts.

@Bucky -

Why don't we wait for the revised numbers to come out before we start attacking? After all, we've all seen how inaccurate and unreliable the estimates have become, haven't we?