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American Exceptionalism — the Myth

There is a distinct American Mythos that includes many folklore elements associated with America’s divine calling by G-d to be the “Shining City on the Hill” taken from Mathew 5:14. It was John Winthrop’s address to the Puritan settlers who, in a sermon, charged them to become that Shining City on the Hill and fulfill the destiny that G-d had charged them with as His Chosen People.

The Puritans were unique, in as much as, they didn’t fully embrace Calvin’s Principles of Predestination or the less stringent Principle of Devine Providence, but chose something between. However, the Puritan theological position clearly became the foundation for the myth of American Exceptionalism.

Almost from the founding of the nation; the idea of American Exceptionalism has been the basis for American continental expansionism, American domestic and foreign policy, and how Americans view themselves in relation to others. The concept and myth of Manifest Destiny, a conceptual outgrowth of American Exceptionalism, was openly promoted for the grab of territory, subdue the Native Americans and the development of resources.

From the earliest days, America was able to concentrate on internal development due to its geographic location; bordered by two massive bodies of water, one on the east coast and one on the west. This effectively isolated the nation from ‘old world’ influences allowing for self-direction in relative isolation and without interference. Part of the isolated development was based on a need to populate the emerging nation and provide the human resources for agricultural development and the industrial revolution.

Alexis de Tocqueville coined the term American Exceptionalism in 1831 in his work, Democracy in America. He used the expression to describe the uniqueness of Americans and the American experience.

De Tocqueville’s work was written at a time when America’s promise seemed unfettered, unlimited and was unburdened by millennia of history dominated by the landed aristocratic classes of the old world.  For the first time since the Roman Republic, the American Republic presented an opportunity for human self-fulfillment. The application of personal persistence and hard work held the promise of success and prosperity. But, reality differed radically from the carefully constructed myth.

New immigrants quickly found that the streets were not paved with gold and the real America presented as many challenges as opportunities. Each new group of immigrants faced the challenge of prejudices from the previous groups that had already settled and established themselves. After the Civil War, a new group entered into the matrix, the former slaves who were feared would take the jobs at the bottom, eliminating opportunities for the new immigrants.  However, until well after the close of the 19th century; America primarily remained focused inwardly, but ambitions were growing on becoming a global colonial power, becoming a driving force.

Although our true purposes were to build a colonial empire with a mighty navy to protect U.S. business interests; it was described to the public as taking American republican democracy and capitalism to the rest of world in the name of peace and prosperity. We were going to rescue the downtrodden, overthrow corruption and rise up the masses to enjoy the benefits of Americanism.

This belief became so engrained into the American belief system that by the time of President Woodrow Wilson, we believed ourselves to be the Shining City on the Hill that would lead the rest of the world out of the morass of old world politics, the end to war, freeing people from undemocratic principles and establish global justice for all. By the time of the Second World War, the dreams of Wilson and others had never been realized. The second half of the 20th century was to become truly the American Century.

The close of the Second World War found the U.S. to be the dominate power with its production capacity fully developed and undamaged. For 15 years we celebrated an accumulation of wealth and power as the rest of the world rebuilt out of the ashes of the most destructive war in history. The myth of American Exceptionalism gained strength and support based on being the only clear alternative to global, soviet style communism. The Cold War mentality and realities became the foundation to maintain American Exceptionalism for the next half century. With the fall of the Soviet Union, the conceptual foundation supporting American Exceptionalism began to form cracks. Without the cover of “fighting communism;" a new light began to illuminate American domestic and foreign policy, and it wasn’t all that pretty and magnanimous.

The end of the 20th century and the opening of the 21st century places America in a new world order. Other nations have begun to reach their full potential and they have found they don’t need the U.S. and are willing to push on with or without us. The only added value that we might currently offer is as a global military power; our roll has changed from developer to protector and maintainer. We have yet to fully embrace our new role as a nation amongst nations. American Exceptionalism is no longer a supportable myth. For those of us who have traveled extensively and resided outside our borders; we know that all nations, to one extent or another, are all exceptional. America doesn’t hold the keys to the kingdom any longer.

The myth of American Exceptionalism can no longer be used effectively to justify America’s prominence as the lead nation. We are faced with the reality that we must honestly compete in the new global order. “Gunboat Diplomacy” will only prove to be less effective over time and has already proven to be a liability. At present, our defense spending exceeds that of all other first tier nations combined. Whereas, we are spending each year around 17 percent of our GDP to maintain our military might; the other nations we are competing with are spending their national treasure in the development of their nation’s infrastructure, education and technology. With our military spending just to maintain that which was, is seriously handicapping our ability to compete and we are left with only one tool; the threat of force.

The repeated political posturing in support of the “America’s Mission” to bring democracy and free trade capitalism to the rest of the world has lost its effectiveness and meaning. The time has come to dial back the rhetoric and to begin actions that will legitimately return America to a place of honor. We must address our serious domestic shortcomings. We must rededicate ourselves to policy and actions that will lift up all of our citizens and make way for a brighter future. Although American Exceptionalism continues to be a myth, we can make the myth into a reality by restructuring and redirecting our energies. The first step would be to cut military spending by 20 percent per year until we reach a level of 50 percent of what we are currently spending. Leading by example is the only means to communicate the America Message.

J. B. Schmidt

2:33 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Let me see if I follow. We as the US created a government that the rest of the world tried emulate as they left their monachies and dictatorships behind. For 200 years we protected countries that could not protect themselves. Since we started handing out foreign aid we have given trillions to countries for things such as humanitarian aid. We have a portion of our armed forces always willing to help in natural disasters. Why? Because we knew we had some thing special that other countries didn't have. Our freedom had created great wealth we could use to help others. We took in millions upon millions of immigrants that have made better lives for themselves and families under the free market system.

However, throw all that away and stick your head in the sand because liberals believe any other country during that last 200 years could have done what the US did had the US not bullied them out of the global spot light.

We are exceptional, we are different. It is those in the liberal movement that hate success who hate American Exceptionalism. Because it isn't fair. They feel guilty for the US being strong, when others are weak. It is only with the increase of socialist government policies that has made us look foolish in the global arena.

I make no apologies for the strength of the US and our desire to show others that a republic system of government coupled with free market principals is the best option for a countries success.

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Lyle Ruble

2:57 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@J.B. Schmidt.....Why are struggling with the myth? Everything that we have done in the past has had a price attached to it. You can go along and continue to believe in something that never existed or you can wake up to the new reality and work to manifest the myth into actuality. I do not want to go the same way as the Roman Empire, but that is the direction we're heading.

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J. B. Schmidt

3:41 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Lyle
More guilt.

By your logic, success itself is a myth since, "Everything that we have done in the past has had a price attached to it." If that is your life, completely dependent on the works others and unable to take credit for any success in your life, then I feel sorry for you.

While I am not very knowledgeable of the down fall of the Roman Empire; doesn't it revolve around a weak military, moral decay, high taxation, government debt, government corruption and loss of distinct Roman culture. In other words they lost the belief in their own exceptionalism.

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Lyle Ruble

4:06 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@J.B. Schmidt....Besides the internal corruption of the Roman Empire, they became overextended and they couldn't maintain the military power it would have taken to save the empire. In the fourth century C.E., Constantine divided the empire in two; east and west. The eastern empire continued until defeated by the Ottomans in the 15th century. The Western Empire only lasted until 476 C.E. Hadrian was the Emperor who stopped the continue expansion and attempted to solidify the territory that they held. The need to maintain a strong military became unsustainable.

As far as guilt; what do you expect from a Jew? We live on guilt!

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Nick Poulos

6:43 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@JB: your logic is flawed as is your reading of @Lyle's text.
How many foreign newspapers do you read in a day? Do you try to catch Global news and see in what light the remaining planet views us?
The take-away, I thought, has to do with our taking care of ourselves, our own Nation, and all ! who reside within our border/are our responsibility.
IF I read Lyle's ideas correctly, he wants us to invest now! [To support that theory,I would recommend that you take in our Nobel Prize Laureates, e.g., Paul Krugman, Thomas Friedman's "That Used to Be US", Robert Borgman, David <...-sorry-> {Reagan's former economic advisor}.Friedman, e.g., argues as do all "invest-now-supporters" that we are crippling our Nation for a decade or longer, if we do not continue into our FreeFall (another good book).
Invest now! it's that simple.Re-elect Obama. Sadly, many of You don't like that logic - it is too systemic,not black n white, immediate, an equation to solve.Tea Party or Republicans Radicals see everything as binary: ON/OFF, Yes/NO!, Black/White- (I struggle with calling "Republicans" you who truly do not lift the covers up n see what the Party has become n intends!:a lifelong Republican, this party ain't the Republican Party)! The Democrats,The Progressives, n the Progressive Conservatives understand and talk about the dots-that-were-connected, the systems' viewpoint, the interconnectedness of life.We are no longer not connected to all: now we need to invest at home.

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Luke

7:39 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Lyle,

Granted, the Romans became overextended, but for different reasons. We are now spending 2/3 of our budget on entitlements, and it's growing.

As for American Exceptionalism, it is only true for those who embrace it.

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Luke

8:03 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Nick,

I have plenty of criticism for Republicans, but on this issue I have to target the Progressives. They have created a new class of slaves, that only serve to increase the voter base.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5tqH7UrzOw

If the Progressives really cared, they would utilize the studies done on poverty to help people out of poverty. That, however, would require them to address how non-immigrants are socialized. (Immigrants tend to arrive properly socialized.)

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Michael McClusky

9:02 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@JB Your comment about the fall of the Roman Empire, I think. Another problem that brought about their ruin was the debasing of their coin. I have read from the Emporor Marcus Aurelius complaining about wealthy people buying silk and spices from China. China only accepted gold. We are also debasing our currency by constantly printing more and more of it. This can have terrible consequences.

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J. B. Schmidt

10:23 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Nick
While I do what I can to stay informed about worldly affairs, I find it a waste of time to take into account what other countries think of the US. Most of them dislike us at the same time they take our foreign aid or expect us to stay allies with them because we are powerful. To quote Lyle, "Everything that we have done in the past has had a price attached to it", there are enough countries out there that can thank the US for our police actions in the past.

Your idea of investing and my idea of investing are vastly different. The core idea regarding exceptionalism is that our country allowed people the freedom/ability to achieve great success with little government interference. The shift of power from individual freedoms to government regulation has occurred at the expense of our exceptionalism. Obama offers a Presidency determined to extend the reach of regulation, government dependency and the death of the ability to achieve great success. I feel an investment in ourselves would restore the freedoms of the individual, decentralize the federal government and re-instill the personal motivation to success that treats government assistance as a taboo. While Romney is no conservative saint; he more closely resembles American Exceptionalism than Obama.

As for reading into Lyle's Article, he makes it pretty clear his is denouncing Exceptionalism. If we aren't currently, weren't in the past and won't be in the future; who cares whether we invest?

Matt Johnson

3:08 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Our Founding Fathers understood this county to be a grand experiment. For the first and still only time, a government was created to be by the people and for the people.
I do not believe "American Exceptionalism" means we are better than anyone else but it stands for the basic principles our country was built on: freedom, self-reliance and responsibility. Those ideals and our constitution are what makes America different from other nations.
Have we failed to follow these ideals set forth by our Founding Fathers? Of course we have. We're human and the liberal/socialistic way can be the easy path to take; i.e. allow government to lead the way in all aspects of life and give us what we choose not to earn for ourselves.
America is not perfect but I will not apologize for our "Execptionalism."

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Lyle Ruble

4:08 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Matt Johnson...Read some history to fully understand our founding. You are another person who uses American Exceptionalism as a justification for incorrect learned perceptions.

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The Anti-Alinsky

7:00 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Lyle, What exactly did Matt get wrong? We live in the greatest country in the world, even with its flaws. We can only hope that more and more countries follow our example.

I think it is incredibly lame of you to assume Matt has " incorrect learned perceptions" just because you don't agree with him!

SkinnyDude

3:11 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Lyle just as Obama, you dont even seem to understand what makes a leader.
Its followers. We didn't claim the title it came with the success of economic and military power. Which always in any nation have went hand in hand. That only was possible when our system of government and capitalism made us the lead dog in the world . Because we did it better than everyone else. That is just a fact.
Back to the drawing board Lyle . This puff piece falls way short of logic. You are making excuses as to why America isnt like everyone else and just got lucky. I mean the government build it right ? The ingredients that make America different are the reality. You need to stop kidding yourself as to what might of been if things were different and focus on the reality of what is ! We are the most Exceptional country in the history of the world.. History bears that obvious fact out much better than this piece pretends to make us just one in the crowd.
Obama has you view. Its the main reason our standing is in jeopardy. His defeat will go along way in preserving Americas place in the world as the shining light on the hill.

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Michael McClusky

5:33 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@skinnyDUDE I want say that the factor that really propelled America throughout its history was the agriculture sector. I feel that it doesn't get the credit it deserves. Did you know that in colonial times the American people were taller and heavier than their European counterparts? I have read that this was the result of hard work, good soil and the fact that it was privately-owned land. We are just real fortunate that these factors all came together. Today, we are still the number one agricultural country in the world. Count are blessings.

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SkinnyDude

5:53 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Agricuture we became a world leader no doubt. My grandfathers were both farmers starting with plow horses to the huge advancement in equipment. In his lifetime he seen the most amazing changes in farming over his life span. Clearly technology has enhanced farming to levels once seemingly impossible within the past 100 years. America was land rich but also land smart with Farmers wanting to do better and the markets that expanded its growth .

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Michael McClusky

6:07 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@skinnyDUDE My point is that we were simply lucky, too. Did you know that when settlers first saw the Great Plains they thought it was useless for farming because there were no trees? They were fortunate that it wasn't an arid desert. Circumstances do help out in life as well as one's actions. We are just very fortunate to live in this country. There are areas in this world where you can't grow squat.

unaborted socrates

3:20 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Spoken like a true loser in the game of life Lyle.

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Lyle Ruble

4:11 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@skinnyDude...Just keep believing the myth. As far as leadership is concerned you wouldn't know leadership if it kicked you in the backside. John Waynem as well as Ronald Reagan where actors, not leaders.

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SkinnyDude

4:53 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@ Lyle
The only myth i see is you pretending to be intelligent. Common sense isnt so common. The world a academia continues to embarrass itself with Hoaxes and flat out wasteful ignorant ideas they hold up as standards in a new world. Its a joke .
As to leadership...you can follow Obama from the 72000 seat Football stadium to a tiny venue of 20,000 which the word is they are scrambling to fill. The bloom is off the rose and your great non leader is having a hard time giving away the free kool aid this time around. But I am sure you will drink it up . After all he's your great failed leader. I can honestly tell you no one thinks there is anything Exceptional about your President Obama . :)
Do you notice how alone on the island you are with such foolish comments. Cant see the forest from the trees Lyle . You view of America is alarming but its also ignorant from any rational thinking .It is easy to tricks one mind into believing their own view is better than the true realities of history and common sense. You have proved that here once again.

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Lyle Ruble

5:02 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@skinnyDude...Where in my piece did I mention any political partisanship. I didn't single out Republicans or Democrats. Why do you have to make everything partisan?

The other issue, what leads to your statements about academia? What has academia done to you that justifies such a reaction? There is a place for the academics as well as the intellectuals.

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SkinnyDude

5:30 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

It is partisan when you have aligned yourself with the same view as President Obama. It is fortunately a minority view. It is nt the view of the opposing party. So it is certainly not within reason to make that apparent .
Where did i mention John Wayne or Ron Reagan?.......oh that was you .
Don't be the kettle that calls the pot black and than pretend you didn't say it .
You called Ronald Reagan a actor and not a leader.....tell that to the 49 out of 50 states that voted for him in the biggest landslide in the history of the nation to win his second term as the Leader of the free world.
Like I said you don't understand the basic concept that leaders have followers. But don't you rush to get a twitter account to try to find followers HA! :)
Try again Lyle . Honestly you piece is missing the key component of Logic!

Avenging Angel

4:09 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Yes, everything we do has a price. If I work long hours to be successful, it detracts from my family time. It's called being a responsible adult.

It is the same with Nations. If they work hard, they are successful. If they do not and have their hand out all the time, they are Greece.

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unaborted socrates

4:15 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Or they become Rubles and are envious of everyone on the north shore.

Lyle Ruble

4:12 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@unaborted socrates...You don't have the first clue about Socrates. There's a good chance he never existed and was made up by Plato.

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The Anti-Alinsky

7:09 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

That's right Lyle, and the CIA really killed JFK.

Jay Sykes

4:45 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Lyle Ruble... Do you think the rest of the world could handle the a 3 year draw-down, to 50% of the current level, in our military presence? We have been doing 'world-policeman' gig so long I'd think that one would need to triple your timeline.

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Lyle Ruble

5:06 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Jay Sykes...Of course it would take quite awhile to draw down. To be honest, I pulled the figure out of the air, but a draw down is necessary. I do think that as we draw down, other nations that are worried about their security will have to strengthen their own defense forces. Thus, a market will continue for military hardware and systems, which we do very well.

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Jay Sykes

6:06 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Lyle Ruble... Our first 20% reduction, or whatever the correct number is, should be targeted(yeash, bad word for draw-down) at the EU countries. These counties are friendly with each other, but, it's still kind of a test of the original intent of the EU as a war deterrent mechanism. See how that goes for a few years.

Maybe Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania would like to go-in on a slightly used USA aircraft carrier for their Baltic Sea frontage.

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Lyle Ruble

6:31 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Jay Sykes...You've got the right idea. As far as I'm concerned we could put up five of the eleven carriers. In many ways Ron Paul has it right. I don't agree with the extremes he is advocating in the draw down, but he's right on with his logic.

Common Sense

5:59 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Poor Lyle. He can't see the Forest from the Trees. The USA is EXCEPTIONAL. Any 3rd Grade History Book would point that out. Lyle, Your mind has gone off the Rails. Your one track mind paints AMERICA as just one in the crowd. When in fact USA has lead the WORLD because it is EXCEPTIONAL. Your nonsense doesn't change THE FACTS. I LOVE my COUNTRY and OBAMA must go.

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Lyle Ruble

6:28 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Common Sense....I love my country also, but I also love the truth. You're treating this like if I had said that Jesus was just a man. In reality, America is just another country amongst others and Jesus was a man. I don't quite understand why it is so threatening to acknowledge simple truths.

In regards to your reference to a third grade history book, of course it supports the myth, but that doesn't change the truth. For example, my third grade history book said that Christopher Columbus discovered the Americas. In the nearly 60 years that I was in third grade, we now know that many discovered the Americas long before Columbus was even alive.

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The Anti-Alinsky

7:17 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Lyle "...In the nearly 60 years that I was in third grade..."

60 years in the third grade. That explains alot.

Common Sense

8:33 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@ Lyle.....Given your extensive years in the 3rd GRADE that EXPLAINS a LOT.
Ignorance is a bliss as your myth simply doesn't reflect REALITY.

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RIGHTisRIGHT

4:02 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@ Common Sense....I agre with you 100%...Lyle, simply lacks Common Sense and is very ignorant. He ignores the facts of History.

GearHead

9:12 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Lyle: if we aren't, then who IS the shining city on the hill?!

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Lyle Ruble

9:20 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@GearHead...No nation can claim that position.

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GearHead

9:24 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

It is a cold, cynical world you live in, Lyle. Fortunately history has proven you wrong, time and again.

Michael McClusky

10:23 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Lyle The only thing I have to say about current military spending has to do with NATO. In the treaty each member country is required to spend 2% of their budgets towards the military. Only the US and Britain are complying. We are being taken advantage of by the other member nations. Either they start towing the line or we should just pull out.

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James R Hoffa

11:11 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Under our current President, we haven't had a budget since the first fiscal year of his administration!

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Michael McClusky

7:10 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@Hoffa Think in terms of total government spending. The US exceeds 2% of its government spending on the military. Most of our allies do not.

Vicki Bennett

10:19 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Lyle, I'm sure you knew this would incite the zealots. Realistically, we are a very young nation. Historically, most democracies haven't survived without some adaptation. When given free choices, men tend to choose selfishly. What will save our glorious nation is selflessness. Can most of the above say that they have been selfless? Do they care about the poor and downtrodden? Do they open their arms to immigrants? A sound infrastructure both physical and human is what we need to maintain our quality of life. I'm weary from fighting off these wolves. Unfortunately, they are probably going to have to learn the hard way and take the rest of us with them.

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Michael McClusky

4:41 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@Vicki Alexander Hamilton believed that people were ignorant, selfish, and corrupt, therefore he believed we needed a strong central government to keep an eye on everyone. It was men like James Madison who resisted this idea; he believed that people were better than that. We are still arguing over the same issue to this day.

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Jim Price

10:28 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@Lyle Ruble – For some reason, your description of this post did not appear with it in read mode, at least on my site. Since it contained your first reference to de Toqueville's coinage, I have inserted it in the text just before your other reference to his work. Let me know if that doesn't work for you.

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Lyle Ruble

11:15 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@Jim Price....That's OK, I have no objection.

The Donny Show

11:03 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

I would comment on this story, BUT I couldnt get through it without falling asleep.

Patch was founded for this?

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Johnny Blade

11:15 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Lyle .. How about you write an article on the MYTH of the Social contract you like to spout about

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unaborted socrates

11:19 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Edward Gibbon (1737 - 1794) in his Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire said that the following five attributes marked Rome at the end; first, a mounting love of show and luxury; second, a widening gap between the very rich and the very poor; third, an obsession with sex, fourth, freakishness in the arts, masquerading as originality, and enthusiasm pretending to be creativity; fifth, an increased desire to live off the state

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Michael McClusky

12:09 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@unaborted socrates I read an account from someone other than Gibbon that might interest you. Apparently, when the barbaric hordes from the north entered northern Italy they were seen as liberators, not conquerors. Their money was so devalued by then that most people were living in a state of misery. They seemed relieved that the power of Rome had finally come to an end.

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Lyle Ruble

5:09 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@unaborted socrates...Please read some later scholarly work and you will find that many of those things by Gibbon were not entirely correct and the variables were much more complicated. Ultimately it was the Roman oligarchy that caused the decline, only accelerating the destruction and decline.

oak creek resident

11:20 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@Lyle

To say Reagan was not a leader is pretty short sighted and shows your utmost liberal hatred and ignorance towards those people who are better than you.

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Lyle Ruble

5:05 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@oak creek resident....I accept Reagan for who he was. He was a man just like any other with his strengths as well as his weaknesses. I lived in California while he was governor and I can tell you he was not a good governor. We are currently paying the price for Reagan as president and his policies. I look past his charisma to see him as he governed, which leave much to be desired. You and others see him as some kind of messiah, but if Iran-Contra would have occurred earlier in his administration, he very well could have been impeached.

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oak creek resident

1:13 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

@Lyle
I never saw him as I messiah, there you go again making assumptions. I guess that makes you a bigot, doesn't it, by clumping all people together.

Reagan was a leader as most historians will tell you, even left leaning ones.

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Michael McClusky

1:36 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

@Lyle Reagan brought a positive attitude back into the White House and throughout the country.. After the dismal Carter years we needed that. Reagan benefitted greatly from having Paul Volcker as head of the Federal Reserve. He was a hard money man who managed to bring our economy back from destruction. Now we have soft money men who are certainly damaging our buying power.

Dave Koven

11:41 am on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Americans have to ask the question: Is our help helpful? If we have been invited into a country to help it, and we have the extra money to do it, we should. But...There is a dark side. There is always a feeling of embarrassment, and even resentment, from the people needing the help. No one likes to admit they couldn't handle things on their own. Most people are proud of their countries and heritages, and receiving aid/help is a direct assault on their national pride. The poor of a country will usually accept any help they can get. It's their leaders who are the problem. They have to confront their own inadequacy as a leader, and not too many leaders of impoverished countries have the ego strength, moral fiber, or political sense to admit their failings publicly. They'd commit genocide rather than to step down from power as is happening in Syria. Every country is entitled to their own revolution. If the WORLD really is being threatened, then we can look at stepping in. Is America "exceptional"? I don't know. We are fairly unusual with all the freedoms our citizens enjoy. There are some things we should not export however: e.g. Our making money as a be-all and end-all philosophy, our youth culture that seems to lack respect for the elderly, our consumerism/constant advertising to the point of being annoying/intrusive, our religions, and our violence-prone view of how to settle disputes.

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Bren

3:45 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

Mr. Ruble, your article reminded me of "The City of God," written by Augustine in the 5th Century A.D.soon after the Visigothic sack of Rome in 410. The event created chaos among those who believed that Christianity was to blame. Augustine argued that there was a conflict between man and God, and that the eventual victory must be God's. The destruction should then be seen as positive because God's "city" succeeds when the works of man falter.

Our government system establishes détente between these "cities" by separating them. The laws of God and man are not mutually exclusive and this system can work well. Imbalance occurs when some try to force the two back into battle.

After the destruction of the current economic crisis we again find ourselves at a crossroad, what type of nation do we wish to be? We are experiencing the instability that other nations have faced in their longer (and shorter) histories, as the chasm within the City of Man grows ever deeper. This battle takes us further and further from the City of God. For those who are not Christian, the City of God is a commitment to treating others as we would ourselves want to be treated, an aspiration to being more than a bi-ped mammal grubbing for berries. For those who believe in a Higher Power/Plane, it is a commitment to sharing the love that we have been taught. And that can spread across nations.

We should reach out, but how can we in this condition?

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Lyle Ruble

4:58 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@Bren....Thank you. You are one of only a few who actually read the piece in the spirit that it was written, raising the question of where do we go from here. I didn't write this as a partisan piece, wanting to bring into discussion the concept of who we are and if that is consistent with a validated reality. Our current situation commands us that we carefully consider issues for decisions to be made as we go forward.

Nations must adapt just as individuals and communities must adapt as the environment and conditions change. When confronted with change many want to return to a time that has been romanticized as a golden era, where contemporary conditions didn't exist.

The mixing of religious principles with secular principles to form a society is tricky at best. However, the Ideal of something like that shining city on the hill is something that transcends religion and secularism. It becomes a worthy goal as we access our new place in the world.

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SkinnyDude

5:19 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@ Lyle
Sadly ...you are resigned to being ordinary.
If you strive to be mediocre you will be a success.
The world has changed but the goal has not. You seem to want to do exactly want the liberal mind has done to education. Lower standards give everyone a cookie and call it a success. America still attracts the best and the brightest because we believe in Capitalism and the merit based society that rewards the best of us. The brillance in capitalism is even when a guy like Bill Gates becomes one of the richest in the world . He makes everyone else life better. He help change the world by leading .Not following.
Why be upset when we have the system that gets the most out of the people driven to not just be mediocre That is an advantage we still have if we could only get government out of the way. The dominance can grow with wisdom and discipline when the people are rewarded for there own genius . They wont do it for a government program that inspires no one and isn't results driven . That would kill the secret sauce. Sadly Lyle I just dont think you get why we are great. Its the people who wanted more than a average life and were willing to devise greatness to achieve it . That greatness has made the entire world better as they followed our lead.

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Lyle Ruble

5:51 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@skinnyDude...To acknowledge that one is ordinary is not a negative, but a realistic reflection of oneself. It is a faulty to believe that one is only motivated to succeed because they believe themselves to be exceptional. I think, you are projecting something about yourself with those claims. The problem comes down to avoiding truth to maintain myths. Circumstance moves subtly and most don't understand all the forces at work. We can celebrate those who have achieved unparalleled success, but that means nothing in our day to day lives.

It's time to take a teaspoon full of reality and stop the ad hominem attacks just because we see the world from different perspectives.

SkinnyDude

6:03 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@ Lyle
Unfortunately the facts are not on your side. Your fight to be ordinary is not a capitalistic view. Not only do the best in brightest in this country rise to the top. The best in brightest from the rest of the world often come here. Far more often than they go anywhere else. This is still true today. We have the markets to reward excellence far more than anywhere else. The biggest dreams are still dreamed here. This is still the place to be if you want to be relevant. I don't think you can logically dispute that fact. For Excample, Where else in the world does A Steve Jobs happen? The answer is simple ......NO WHERE!

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Lyle Ruble

7:25 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@skinnyDUDE...I'm not fighting to be ordinary and your idea that capitalism is based on the extra-ordinary is not based in reality. It is not always the best and the brightest that rise to the top and your claim to that is again an absurdity. How many Steven Jobs are there, Warren Buffet, or Bill Gates? They are few and far between. It is the ordinary person who attempts to better themselves that this nation is truly built on. Not everyone is going to be the next Steve Jobs and don't necessarily wish to be. Most people want to take care of themselves and family the best way possible. To answer the question you pose, people like Steve Jobs exist all over the globe and are not just proprietary to the U.S.

You cite that we attract the brightest and best, but shortsighted people are willing to cut financing to institutions of higher education and risking the ability to attract those people. Besides, now, now for the most part, foreign students are receiving their education and returning to their homelands because opportunities are rising in their native countries.

To claim that we are the only ones who have the markets, is just plain false. The economy is now global, including the markets. It is time to broaden your views.

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SkinnyDude

8:11 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

My views are based on the facts. Your view is based on the true myth .It is you the think outside the box to fail and the majority that think out of the box to succeed. Good Luck with that Lyle! I know you are a person no one would ever bet on . You simply don't get it and never will.
Your the typical liberal with a bad idea that no one with any common sense or dignity would ever buy. Your solution for America is to fight to be ordinary.To be less than we truly are by any measure in this world. Its laughable to anyone who isn't dedicated to reading Marxist and socialist books looking for solutions to problems that don't exist.
Sad that you grew up in this country and reach the conclusions you do why you reaped the benefits of USA raising the bar for any nation to the highest level ever know to man . And you don't like it lol Its actually laughable and sad at the same time.
I hope your kids or grand kids dont grow up in the country you want us to be. They deserve better than that. I hope they give Grandpa a cookie and giggle when he starts acting this silly.

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Lyle Ruble

10:31 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@skinnyDUDE....What are you really attempting to say? You talk of facts, but you don't state any. I am not attempting to convince anyone to follow my lead, but to follow their own hearts and minds. I believe in people and their ability to rise up and do what is necessary. People do understand their duties to others and are willing to give of themselves and share to lift up others. You are obsessed with Marxism and socialism, when that is not what is being discussed at all. Helping and caring for others is not limited to socialism, it is a fundamental belief and value of our nation.

I am beginning wonder if you understand the concept of the Shining City on the Hill. Maybe you need to break out your bible and read the scriptural passage. We have the ability to make the myth real, but not if we follow your path, where the key phrase is "it's all about me"! To be a great nation, we need to rise all of us up.

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SkinnyDude

11:32 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@Lyle
There you go again ( using my Reagan voice)
Have a good day Lyle. Your vision is clearly out of touch with the majority that have read it . You have managed to convince yourself of your own view. That's the easy part. Its clear you havent made the case to others. Do you academic friends think this idea is brilliant? It certainly hasnt found an audience here that believes it . Even you can acknowledge that I hope.But I will leave it there. I am confident history will continue to prove you wrong if we can remove Obama from office. If he wins re election that might be a death blow even capitalism struggles to overcome.

anne

6:08 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

In Mr Rubles world we would all live in metal huts like George Obama. What a pathetic excuse you are Mr Ruble!

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Lyle Ruble

7:26 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@anne...Thanks for adding so much to the discussion.

Nick Poulos

6:20 pm on Thursday, September 6, 2012

@JB: I still fail to see where in this text @Lyle either does not like the term "exceptionalism" or wants to give up on it. But again, I could be wrong.
I am surprised, however, that you aren't interested in what the rest of the world thinks of us, how it looks at us, or at how we participate in the world. Or, just the news from the other side: try it - It might readjust your own way of viewing our own reality.
As to investing,let me share this as a "backstory":I took the Pew Poll on newshour.pbs.org:It tells me I am a conservative Republican in values.I still believe we must invest now.
I believe that it is the only morally and ethically right decision 4 this country.I believe that all this "austerity" talk has scared us from understanding the truth;it has hidden the truth from us.Right now,we as a nation must come together and invest in ourselves in order 2 stop the slow-nearly impossible-to-detect-backsliding that has gone on since 2008.I can't tell you where to "fix" THE problem. I can suggest that to begin with we must decide where we want 2 go. we must truthfully,without veiling the facts; clearly identify our "current state" situation, our point of departure. Then we can identify our "desired end-state",our point of arrival. Without doing that we merely kick pebbles up the road. (certainly not to suggests words for our author, but) I think @Lyle is saying:stop kicking pebbles; and let's come together and decide where we really want this country to be in 5/25 years.

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J. B. Schmidt

7:23 am on Friday, September 7, 2012

@Nick
While the intent of the article might be considered non-partisan, the narrative was one designed to agitate the conservative. By calling out exceptionalism as a myth, Lyle introduces his blog by attacking something most on the right hold dear.

I would be interested to see the questions in that poll as most consider an 'Obama Republican' as a mythical creature or at minimum a Democrat with a severe identity crisis.

If we are to come together, lets discuss how to decentralize the federal government. Both of us can probably agree it is suffering from sever corruption, "When buying and selling are controlled by the government, the first things to be bought and sold are the legislatures." So rather than trying to legislate ourselves out of our problems or relying on government as an almighty power to be worshiped instead of controlled; let takes its power and give back to the people.

The government by its ever increasing control and regulations has altered the cultural and value systems of the country. It has changed the work ethic and feeling of individual responsibility that our nation relied on. It has in its attempt to create equality by fiat, destroyed many freedoms. Unless we as a people decide we can do it without the overreaching control of government, we will continue done the path we are on; uncontrolled spending, government dependence and decline in global presence.

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Lyle Ruble

7:34 am on Friday, September 7, 2012

@J..B. Schmidt...I can't control how anyone reacts to the issue of American Exceptionalism as a myth. It was not written as a way to bait the right, but as a view of the truth. What I am addressing is the use of American Exceptionalism as a foundation for hypocritical rhetoric and using it as an excuse to justify any and everything this nation does.

You talk about coming together, but you put conditions on coming together that are really designed to keep parties apart. All we can do is legislate ourselves since WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT!

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Bob McBride

8:21 am on Friday, September 7, 2012

There's another side of Amercian Exceptionalism that many, particularly those on the left, are blind to. That's the one that lays the problems with our economy, specifically the decline of the middle class, at the feet of "greedy" corporations and domestic business interests and that assumes we can redefine ourselves internally in such a fashion that ignores the reality of the global economy and how it, more than anything, will determine the future of this country.

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SkinnyDude

4:24 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

@ Bob
You cant tell that to a Dem party willing to tax business at a level that forces them to leave if they want to succeed on the global stage. .The desire to tax success on a level much higher than many areas makes them less competitive.If they relocate to greener pastures the investors applaud it . If they stay and take the financial hit the investors leave them . The world stage of business and investment finds success. If you set up America to be less desirable . No one should be surprised if that kills growth . Its common sense . But Common sense God and Israel arent really part of the far left liberal platform .They don't have a clue how to actually attract Economic success. Which is the key to growing the economy , revenues and the economic pie. You don't grow spending money you do'nt have at these levels .40 TO 45 CENTS ON A DOLLAR . That is ultimately a death sentence to any nation . Especially to the free riders they claim to care about .
Greece tells this story all to well . They are sunk and in a death spiral and will have to hit rock bottom before anyone puts a dime of investment there.

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