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What We Learned From the Republican National Convention.

We already knew the GOP is willing to tackle the tough issues that Obama and the Democrats refuse to deal with. This was reinforced by Paul Ryan at the Republican National Convention, but for most this is not new information. The convention speeches had attacks on President Obama’s record that were done in a tone of sadness about the damage done, rather than anger. Again we all knew president Obama is a disappointment. What we did get to see is more about who Mitt Romney is and we saw the many rising stars in the Republican Party.

President Obama in his advertising is claiming, sure Romney is a highly successful leader, but he is out of touch, he is evil, he outsourced jobs a Bain Capital, he hates minorities, and he hates women.  If you watched the convention I did, all of the above claims were proven beyond a doubt as false, except that it is true that Romney has been a highly successful leader at everything he has done.

Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints it is laughable to suggest that Romney is out of touch and does not understand the problems of average people, given that he has served as a Bishop and Stake President. At the convention there were many opportunities to see clearly that Romney understands the needs of average Americans and that he is really good man. There were three great examples on Thursday in the non-primetime part of the convention. One opportunity to see this came when a firefighter and his wife talked about how Mitt had visited his son and helped his son as their son was dying. (1) Another was when Pam Finlayson talked about how the Romney’s helped when her premature baby was in the hospital. (2) Then Grant Bennett one of Romney’s assistants when he was a bishop spoke. He talked of the work Romney did as a Bishop, meeting many hours every week with people about the burdens of life including unemployment, sickness, financial distress, and loneliness. (3) These and more gave convention viewers a look at who Mitt Romney is, a really decent man who is not out of touch and does understand challenges the average American faces.

There were several speakers that discussed Mitt Romney’s true record at Bain Capital. The truth is that Mitt Romney’s record is that of turning things around. Bain capital took many struggling companies then reorganized them to give them a chance. Another part the Bain Capital story is that he helped new companies get a start, like Staples. (4)

President Obama is trying to divide America as Rubio said, “Hope & Change has been replaced with Divide & Conquer”. President Obama wants us to hate rich people, he wants women to hate men, and minorities to feel threatened. Truthfully what we need is leadership to improve the growth of the economy, reform entitlements, and cut spending to avoid debt crisis. These are things we all need done regardless of our wealth, sex, or any other way the Democrats seek to create division. This convention demonstrated that the Democrats are wrong in pursuing their war on women. They try to claim Romney does not support women.  One example of Romney’s commitment to diversity was that he had Massachusetts ranked # 1 in the percentage of women in top positions in the state. (5)

The last thing we saw is that the Republican Party has many rising stars that are having success with reform and improving their states, like Scott Walker has here in Wisconsin. It will be interesting who the Democrats have speak at their convention, given that they have no successful leaders following liberal principles. Even their best star and last big success story, former President Bill Clinton, big success involved cutting capital gains taxes, welfare reform ,and other conservative ideas. Maybe they will have Pat Quinn speak as he has followed the liberal playbook.  Or maybe have Pat Quinn and Jerry Brown get up and explain that they are leading their states to bankruptcy and President Obama is doing the same for our country.

The challenge for Romney, post convention, is to get the truth about his record, the need for reform, who he is, and his plan for America to a wider audience of voters. President Obama’s challenge is the opposite he needs to hide who he is, he needs to distract from his record, and confuse people into thinking Romney is somehow even scarier than a second term for a failed president that is in over his head. At this point I think the truth will prevail and Romney will win.

1)      http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Ted-and-Pat-Oparowsky-at-the-2012-Republican-National-Convention/C3844139/

2)      http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Pam-Finlayson-at-the-2012-Republican-National-Convention/C3844140/

3)      http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Grant-Bennett-at-the-2012-Republican-National-Convention/C3844138/

4)      http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Tom-Stemberg-at-the-2012-Republican-National-Convention/C3830821/

5)      http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Jane-Edmonds-at-the-2012-Republican-National-Convention/C3806214/

Bren

3:44 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

"Refuse to deal with?" A six-month super-majority and a dearth of GOP support (aka "obstruction") and still so much has been accomplished in Obama's first term. The economy was saved from a disaster, the ACA is helping many people, a million jobs saved through the GM bailout, Osama bin Laden is no longer a threat, etc.

Unless rewriting the human biology textbook to include a female "Magical Secretion" should have been the focus. In that case, no, that didn't happen.

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Wallaby Jones

4:42 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Well said. Record filibusters on every single piece of legislation involving jobs and the low-info voters still can't see what the problem is.

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Greg

4:49 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Maybe not Magical Secretion, but Obama did rewrite the human biology textbook to include a "Composite Girlfriend". Now that is just plain weird!

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Bren

5:07 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

A composite girlfriend suggests a dating rut to me... ; )

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Bryant Divelbiss

6:43 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

For two years he only needed one RINO to do whatever. But instead of jobs he pursued healthcare takeover. Since then the only jobs bill he proposed was a joke, copy of first stimulus that failed. Designed so that no reasonable person could vote for it, then he could claim he tried. The GM bailout was mismanaged, he bailed out the UAW at taxpayer expense, a competently managed bankruptcy would not have the taxpayers losing billions and a company projected to be in bankruptcy in next four Years.

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James R Hoffa

6:50 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

@Bren -

Maybe the dating rut was caused by Obama's failure to deal with reality head-on. In Obama's early adulthood, accoridng to his own words, whenever the going got tough, Obama chose to check out by snorting a few lines, smoking some crack-rock, hitting the bong, lighting a joint, taking a few hits of acid, getting sh!t-faced drunk and lord knows what else!

How can you support a candidate that used to do this whenever life got a little difficult for him in his adulthood? Doesn't that say something about his character and integrity?

And yet you constantly rip on Romney for his treatment of the family dog. At least whenever the going got tough for Romney, Romney got going instead of checking out like Obama did! Romney has never even taken a sip of alcohol, yet alone abused hard illegal narcotics the way Obama used to!

Honestly, how do you reconcile this?

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Bryant Divelbiss

6:54 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Obama and the Democrats did not save the economy. The only thing they deserve credit for is the SEC suspending Mark-to-Market rules from SOX regs in April 2009, ironically regulation to prevent Enron's accelerated the crisis. By may the panic was over. Almost no stimulus spent then. By late 2009 companies realized they had cut inventory to far during the panic and the economy was headed from improvement. Lots of optimism after Scott Brown Election that the Democrats might be reasonable and pull back from their radical agenda. Then they rammed Obamacare and continued the anti-business policies. Not surprisingly that lead to worst recovery since great depression.A president with just a little bit of competence could have the growth rate 50% higher than Obama which would still not be great. Face it either he is trying to screw up this country or he in in over his head.

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GearHead

11:25 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Hoffa: Nowadays, when the going gets tough, the president goes golfing. 104 times and counting during his first term. How does Bren explain that dereliction of duty? Safer than crack, I suppose.

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Bren

12:13 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Mr. Hoffa, you have brought up the dog incident more than I have. I don't support drug use but appreciate Obama's coming forward. All I've heard about young Romney is how he assaulted a fellow student and cut his hair. Nice.

Bryant, a million GM and industry jobs saved, cars selling. Chrysler at the point of making payments. That indicates "working" to me.

"Not surprisingly that lead to worst recovery since great depression." Bryant, have you ever taken a U.S. history class? Or read an article about the Great Depression? Perhaps you have forgotten. After the stock market crash of October 29, 1929 and a slight rebound, a tariff was enacted in 1930 that stopped international trade virtually in its tracks. Other countries' economies crashed. Banks foreclosed on homes; people began hoarding money until there was little financial movement, exacerbating the problem. Worse, social unrest began to swell. "Hoovervilles" of displaced, angry people began to show up. It wasn't until Roosevelt began spending money creating work programs, etc. that social unrest quietened and the economy began to inch forward. World War II and more government spending got the economy cranking.

We've had nothing to compare with the GD until now. Who's obstructing jobs bills after years of rubber-stamping bad fiscal policies under Bush. Please.

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Bren

12:29 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Gear, let's "talk" about "dereliction of duty," aka "vacation." Here's the work-up of notable vacation schedules of modern presidents:

George W. Bush (8 years) 1,020 days
FDR (12 years) 958 days
Bill Clinton (8 years) 689 days
LBJ (6 years) 484 days
Reagan (8 years) 436 days
Obama (as of May 9, 2012) 61 days

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CowDung

1:33 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Bren:

What is your source for that data, and what is counted as a 'vacation day'? GW Bush certainly had his staff and resources at his Texas ranch during his 'vacations', allowing him to work from there in pretty much the same way as he did when he was in Washington DC. I'm pretty sure that Obama does not have the same level of access when he's on the golf course, or even in Hawaii for that matter.

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James R Hoffa

2:33 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Bren -

Obama only came forward about his past drug abuse AFTER the 2008 election had concluded!

As you say - Nice!

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Bren

6:00 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

The vacation data derives from several sources, which is on my other laptop. I Googled the question--for example, the Clinton data is from Wiki Answers. Modern presidential vacations always include some work, and 24 hour/day availability in the event of a crisis.

My favorite George W. Bush quote from the golf course: "I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. [Holding up golf club] Now, watch this drive." Like that kind of "work," Cow?

And there are these interesting contraptions called smart phones and apps. One can check up on news, sports, texts, and emails from all over. For example, I have two videophone-type apps on my phone so I can see the other iPhone user's face. Cool, huh? President Obama probably has something like this as he Tweets quite a bit. So he's probably in the loop.

Mr. Hoffa, Mr. Hoffa. "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance," which discusses Obama's self-described "party lifestyle" (drugs/booze), was first published in July 1995 and republished in August 2004.

Further, Obama is upfront in his preface about changing names for privacy reasons and creating some composite characters. Hope this helps,

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James R Hoffa

7:16 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Bren -

You are correct - Hoffa meant to say that the media vetting of this fact only occurred after the election had concluded.

Meanwhile, the media is beating up Mitt Romney over a hair cut prank and the car ride of his family dog.

Funny how the media does not see Obama getting into fist fights and shoving and belittling girls in his early adulthood as not being news worthy, but Romney's prank haircut and family dog incident somehow are relevant?

Even you have to admit that the liberal media bias here is pretty messed up!

And please don't give us that crap line about how the the truth has a liberal bias - we've heard that LIE too many times already!

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Bren

5:09 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Really, Steve? As if Barack Obama created the deficit or the recession.

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Steve ®

6:24 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Hope and Blame

Your Jesus can't put the credit card down, time to start admitting he is spending us into default. Linked was another broken promise by your Messiah. He has only done the opposite, and we warned you.

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James R Hoffa

6:40 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

@Bren -

The state of the economy was known when candidate Obama made the promise to the American people to half the deficit, remember?

There's no viable excuse here - Obama LIED and actually increased the deficit as opposed to lowering it, adding a record amount of money to the debt over the last 4 years.

What's even scarier than the national debt is our total public debt and unfunded liabilities: federal, state, municipal/school board debt is around $40T.

The total public and private debt of our country stands at around $70T or $222,715/person.

That's unsustainable!

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J. B. Schmidt

6:54 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

@Bren
Since you failed to address the question in another blog:

What did the Democrats do after they gained both houses in 2006 to prevent us from falling off the financial cliff? Might I remind you that Obama was in congress during that time.

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Bren

12:38 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I wonder what would have happened if the same deficit hawks clucking today had shackled FDR by the ankles during the Great Depression.

Deficit hawks who stood by and rubberstamped egregious tax cuts for the folks who needed them least, stood like statues as billions of taxpayer dollars were handed out in no-bid contracts to Halliburton and its newly-created subsidiaries and other contractors; as Bunnatine Greenhouse, contract official, was publicly demoted for trying to stop it (and received a $970,000 settlement in taxpayer dollars 2011 in response); etc., etc., etc., are now pretending they now have a solution.

If it wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.

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James R Hoffa

2:38 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Bren -

You're like a broken record, repeating the same old nonsense over and over again!

And you never directly answer the tough questions - just like Obama! No wonder you like him so much!

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Dirk Gutzmiller

4:20 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Steve - Why does a commenter constantly found to make idiotic statements persist in making more idiotic statements so easily disproven?. The liberals did not run up the national debt alone, of course, your very own dear sweet party contributed many many trillions, and everyone knows that..

Kelly

11:09 am on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Are you intentionally ignoring the amount of corruption and power grabbing done by Romney and the RNC elite at the convention?

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Dirk Gutzmiller

12:21 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

What I learned from the Republican Convention.

Maybe I do now believe in some liberal press bias,, at least among the video directors and camera operators at the RNC. My TV kept showing white-haired or bald men and bleached blonde matrons milling around on the convention floor, right in front of the podum, half listening to the speaker, if at all, and a pattering of applause if the speaker paused long enough and looked expectantly at the audience. Only the very occasional racial/ethic minority individual in the audience, but seemingly most of the speakers were indeed. minorities the Republicans are having a tough time attracting for some reason.

Romney still did not project any real empathy for the common man. It can be done even if you are rich, like the Kennedys could. Ryan lost integrity with his hate ad acceptance speech. Noticeably absent were Bush jr., Cheney, Palin and many of the embarrassing former Republican falling stars.

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Jason J

12:22 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

If you believe it how is this... this is the criminal enterprise that you liberals have voted into office.
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/travel/Obama+daughter+spends+spring+break+Mexico/6323773/story.html

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Dirk Gutzmiller

4:26 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Jason J. - Malia Obama going to Mexico as a tourist with other young friends is a criminal enterprise? You seem to be a jealous 13 yr. old.

Nick Poulos

12:27 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

As usual, my complaint with the Radical Right/Tea PArty Radicals, such as J.|B. and the @Hoffa-impersonator. on Patch is that they blind us with meaningLESS fact, factoids that can be twisted anyway the wind blows.
The truth is that Romney and Ryan are trying to re-shape America and NOT in a way that is in any way what most people believe they intend to do. Worse yet, if you were to deconstruct Romney/Ryan carefully - looking to unhide the truth - very very few Americans would in truth vote either for Romney or Ryan.
Obama is for an inclusive America: an America that is a stronger democratic republic. Ryan and Romney, following their spiritual leader Ayn Rand, want to destroy the remnants of the Judeo-Christian ethics upon which this Nation was founded. Romney and Ryan prefer the amoral, self-centered, selfish, self-interest, wherein everyone floats or sinks on their own. In the process, the Romney Ryan camp want to exclude all who are not like them: take for instance Mitt Romney's proclamation about his "whiteness" - this is A.D. 2012 not 1786. Protect our democratic republic - reject the Romney Ryan ticket and re-elect our visionary President, Barack Obama.

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CowDung

12:49 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Funny how the Lefties used to complain that the Right was trying to create a theocracy by pushing Christianity onto everyone, and now they are complaining about Ayn Rand's atheism and claiming that the Right wants to 'destroy the remnants of the Judeo-Christian ethics upon which this Nation was founded.'

Can't you people make up your mind?

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Bren

1:00 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Cow, I think we are seeing several levels of activity. The proto-theocrats (Magical Secretion, Pill Between the Knees, Forcible Rape nonsense) firing up the low-information base; meanwhile, atheistic philosophy-fueled Paul Ryan forgets to give his idol Ayn Rand a shout out from the national stage. Same with Romney's passing comment about his religion. That tells me that the low information base isn't supposed to know.

That's not a "lefty" problem as informed voters know all about Mormonism and Ayn Rand. This is a GOP strategist-created issue with their voting base, pure and simple.

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unaborted socrates

1:04 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

I wonder if it is possible for all UW M students that are forced to listen to Rent-a-Teacher Poulos to sue him for malpractice due to his inept ignorance.

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Randy1949

1:05 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@CowDung -- Look up hypocrisy and the double-standard. The Right wants a theocracy on reproductive rights but ignores the caring for the poor that Jesus taught. You can't have it both ways, not and still tout religion the way Ryan does.

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J. B. Schmidt

1:06 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Nick
You again label some hidden item that will destroy America, but you never explain. You claim Obama is for an inclusive America, yet the Democratic Caucuses met in distinctly separate room based on race, gender, income and religion during this convention. It is Obama who reshaped our entire healthcare system while the public was against it.

Are you glasses mirrored on the inside, because you are only seeing what you want and not the reality the rest of us are living in.

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J. B. Schmidt

1:09 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Randy
You said, "Blah, blah, blah contraceptive. Blah, Blah, Blah hate the poor." I could pull those lines from a post made by any liberal on Patch.

If the campaign wants to move forward, maybe they could attempt to advance new ideas rather then spend time and money on these old lines of rubbish.

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James R Hoffa

2:54 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Nick -

Your problem appears to be that you believe in unfounded conspiracy theories as opposed to objective factual reality.

That is why you dismiss the objective facts as being meaningless and instead perpetuate a bunch of nonsense that you cannot back up beyond your own opinion or the opinions of other extremely biased partisan types.

Have you ever thought for yourself a day in your entire life? Or do you only believe in and adopt the opinions of others without the ever exploring the primary factual sources for yourself?

Your vision of America is that of a blind lemming society reliant and ever trusting in government. Sorry, but that's not what this country is all about and the people of this country will make that message loud and clear come November!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOfWtDhPYg

"Trust the government? Heck, I'm in the government and I don't even trust it. You don't have to believe in your government to be a good American - you just have to believe in your country!"

Lyle Ruble

2:16 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Bryant Divelbiss....I've been laying low, but you had to write this piece of partisan tripe. You have a great deal of gall to turn around and attest to Romney's worth based on his religion that you so happen to share. He didn't even have the intestinal fortitude to get up and bear his own testimony, but relied on others. I wrote a piece about the man a few months ago and you and your wife took exception to it, yet you turn around and say he's a good and decent man because he was a Mormon Bishop and Stake President. I could go all day with the number of Mormon Bishops and other Church officials have up to their backsides in Ponzi schemes, stock fraud, etc; taking advantage of their positions to fraud the faithful.
You and others are attempting to deify Romney and Ryan and make Obama Satan. Just as others on the extreme right, you wouldn't recognize the truth if it jumped up and bit you on the nose.
I have been critical of Obama and the left on a number of issues even though I am a lefty. I don't fear that the blatant truth will hurt those on the left, but you obviously fear any truth that would cast the Republican ticket in less than a work of perfection.

If you want to do people a favor, try some self examination before rolling out your partisan trash.

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Dirk Gutzmiller

4:15 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Now we have Mormons (Divilbiss) extolling Mormons. Surprise, surprise. It really takes away from any objectivity this blog purports to have. Religion does enter politics in a big, big way.. As to Obama, he has the Mark of Cain, per Mormon theology. Divilbiss should disqualify himself from further blogs unless under a religion banner. .

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unaborted socrates

4:17 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Dirk and Lyle the prejudiced anti Mormon bigots....the Democrat party certainly has a big tent, big enough for racists, bigots and other mouth breathers.

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Dirk Gutzmiller

4:36 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

unaborted socrates - I was a Mormon for many years, and I have family members that were and are Mormons. I have personal knowledge and experience. Do you, O unsage one, pretending to be intelligent?

Bernard Forand

4:17 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Lets see if we understand the platforms that the right and left are running on. Then we can see who is supporting what and attacking what. Let the fun begin.

Labor
The Democratic platform states the party members:
Believe that the right to organize and collectively bargain is a fundamental American value; every American should have a voice on the job and a chance to negotiate for a fair day’s pay after a hard day’s work. We will continue to fight for the right of all workers to organize and join a union.
The platform adds, “We oppose the attacks on collective bargaining that Republican governors and state legislatures are mounting in states around the country.”
The Republican platform praises states that passed “right to work” for less laws:
We support the right of states to enact right-to-work laws and encourage them to do so to promote greater economic liberty. Ultimately, we support the enactment of a national right-to-work law to promote worker freedom and to promote greater economic liberty.
The Republican platform also blames public employee unions for state fiscal crises:
We salute the Republican governors and state legislators who have saved their states from fiscal disaster by reforming their laws governing public employee unions. We urge elected officials across the country to follow their lead in order to avoid state and local defaults on their obligations and the collapse of services to the public.

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Bernard Forand

4:18 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Taxes
The Democratic platform says that President Obama will fight to extend tax cuts for those making less than $250,000—while “asking the wealthiest and corporations to pay their fair share.” This means, only the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans would see their taxes go up.
The Republican platform calls for extending all the Bush-era tax cuts, which experts agree are enormous drivers of our budget deficit.

Medicare
The Democratic platform explains that the Mitt Romney-Paul Ryan Republican budget plan to give seniors vouchers or “coupons” for health care “would end Medicare as we know it.”
The platform states:
Democrats adamantly oppose any efforts to privatize or voucherize Medicare; unlike our opponents, we will not ask seniors to pay thousands of dollars more every year while they watch the value of their Medicare benefits evaporate. Democrats believe that Medicare is a sacred compact with our seniors.
The Republican platform cynically claims it will “save Medicare by modernizing it.” It calls for block-granting Medicaid and giving future seniors, those under age 55, a voucher to pay for health care. Vouchers are designed to cover less and less, leaving seniors with large out-of-pocket health care expenses.

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Bernard Forand

4:20 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Social Security
The Democratic platform pledges to “find a solution to protect Social Security for future generations” and to “block Republican efforts to subject Americans’ guaranteed retirement income to the whims of the stock market through privatization.”
The Republican platform wants to carve out private accounts as “supplements” to the Social Security system:
While no changes should adversely affect any current or near-retiree, comprehensive reform should address our society’s remarkable medical advances in longevity and allow younger workers the option of creating their own personal investment accounts as supplements to the system.
It's pretty clear which platform lays the groundwork for an economy that works for everyone, not just the 1%.
Read the entire Democratic and Republican party platforms and you decide.
Now that should get things bubbling.

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James R Hoffa

4:51 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Bernard -

Instead of huge off-topic anti-conservative liberal brain dumps in the comments section, which just acts to disrupt the on-topic conversation, why don't you actually do your own blog on the Patch with this crap?

Bernard Forand

4:33 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Bryant Divelbiss;

I think it’s a given our dear Bryant has issues as to his competency to evaluate, discern and comprehend the little he can apprehend. Right Wing’s empathy will embrace him. After all he has their qualifications of a bigoted mentality. Like anti says books are not a source for information! Probably thinks its cheating. They are so funny. Oh well lets try this. The Hoffas will like this;

Ever hear my story of the truck? Well here it is;
2 Guys buy a truck to serve their business. Each have their own business. {A} uses the truck, with wear / tare and fuel added , 10% of the time. {B} uses it the other 90%. Now time to add up cost and who pays what. {A} says he owes 10% {B} disagrees. He claims that 85% is what {A} owes. For {B} at 15% is paying far more in monies than {A} is paying with his 10%. Now if{ A} don’t pay, {B} will SHUTDOWN the truck. The rest I’ll leave for you to figure it out. Now if you decide that {A} should pay the 85% then contact me immediately. Baby do I have a deal for you.

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The Anti-Alinsky

8:45 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Your silly example still makes no sense Bernie.

Bernard Forand

5:21 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Dirk Gutzmiller also commented on What We Learned From the Republican National Convention..
"Steve - Why does a commenter constantly found to make idiotic statements persist in making more idiotic statements so easily disproven?. The liberals did not run up the national debt alone, of course, your very own dear sweet party contributed many many trillions, and everyone knows that.."
Bernie replies;
The issue is all about economics! Lets see how the parties measure up.
Pedro Santa-Clara
Nova School of Business and Economics; National Bureau of Economic Research
(NBER); Centre for Economic Policy Research (CEPR)
Rossen I. Valkanov
University of California, San Diego (UCSD) - Rady School of Management

Pedro Santa Clara and Rossen Valkanov Concurred that the democrats fared better than the republicans by a wide margin. Democrats had consistent above average returns. Most Republicans had lower than average returns and greater volatility.
Santa Clara and Valkanov attribute the difference in returns to the stock markets being systematically and positively surprised to discover that democratic polices in a 80 year time frame of quantifiable data, are the best economic stewards for the nation. Differences are substantial.

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Bernard Forand

5:26 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Democrats had a respectable average return of 9.6% as when compared to republicans 0.58% average returns. If an employee’s 401[K] plan was fully invested in stocks at a value of $100,000, at the beginning of the employee’s 40 years of labor, apply this to both parties for returns.
Republicans Nest egg would have accumulated $224,375.
Democrates Nest Egg would have accumulated $ 3,912,210.
Now at $5,000, initial nest egg investment.
Republicans Nest Egg would have accumulated $126,027.
Democrats Nest Egg would have accumulated $1,985,526.
‘The Presidential puzzle; Political Cycles and the stock market” Accessed journal of finance, Vol.LVIII, no.5October 2003

In addition;http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/ Pulitzer Prize Awarded site

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The Anti-Alinsky

8:44 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

And again Bernie:

( http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist.pdf )

YEAR ------ TOTAL SPENT ---% INCREASE
----------------(in millions)
2008 ..........2,982,544 .............9.30% (last year of Bush)
2009 ..........3,517,677 ...........17.94% (transition budget with TARP)
2010 ..........3,456,213 ............-1.75% (first Obama budget)
(still higher than 2008 by 15.88%)
2011 ..........3,603,061 .............4.25%
2012 ..........3,795,547 .............5.34% (estimate)
and the politifact followups:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/may/25/lots-heat-and-some-light-obamas-spending/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-facts-about-the-growth-of-spending-under-obama-part-2/2012/05/30/gJQA3V4d2U_blog.html

So how do you go from 2.982 TRILLION to 3.795 TRILLION (a 27% increase in four years) and still have "the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years"?!?!?!?!?!

Bernard Forand

5:58 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@ James R Hoffa also commented on What We Learned From the Republican National Convention..
"Bernard - Instead of huge off-topic anti-conservative liberal brain dumps in the comments section, which just acts to disrupt the on-topic conversation, why don't you actually do your own blog on the Patch with this crap?"

Well if I can’t get the anti Hoffa’s to the books then I’ll bring the books to ya’all. Blog really who reads those. Too many words for the little guys to read. So I’ll just keep putting facts from the economist all laid out for you in small packets for you to digest. Have to admit some of you guys are never going to get out of their little, little, little world. Their too comfy in their foxy dens and they Yip to yip, yip, yip their nonsense. Yipping gets my attention and I try to pat their heads and get them to settle down. Hate to see them in such turmoil. Poor guys… Think they hate democracy.. How do the Hoffas feel about that. http://youtu.be/2Ux8Q3XC98U

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James R Hoffa

7:06 pm on Wednesday, September 5, 2012

@Bernard -

Anyone can cut, paste, and post.

Try proving to us that you can think for yourself by doing your own blog here on Patch and stop disrupting the flow of the on-topic conversion with large off-topic dumps. No one is reading your crap and it only upsets those of us actually engaged in the on-topic conversation.

Just like a liberal - very inconsiderate of others!

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