Forum Will Bring Debate on Gun Violence to Oak Creek

Why wait for legislation? Oak Creek Mayor Steve Scaffidi says he wants to focus on how each person can do their part to combat gun violence.

As the debate on how to prevent gun violence continues, much of the discussion centers on legislation and big-picture concepts.

But what about things anyone could do, right now?

That's what will be discussed at a Jan. 12 community forum organized by Oak Creek Mayor Steve Scaffidi.

The forum, which is free and open to the public, will be held from 3 to 5:30 p.m. at East Middle School and feature a panel with Scaffidi, Police Chief John Edwards, U.S. Attorney James Santelle and County Executive Chris Abele.

Scaffidi is inviting many others, including Sikh temple members, the Interfaith community and mental health and community violence experts.

The mayor has been outspoken about the crucial need to come up with solutions to gun violence — even if it means receiving vicious hate mail, like he has since joining the Mayors Against Illegal Guns group.

As the mayor of a city that went through a mass shooting this year, Scaffidi said he feels an obligation to be an active participant in the debate.

"I was not going to let what happened here just slowly fade into oblivion. We're going to continue to reinforce messages that actually make a difference, whether it's this, whether it's cultural awareness, all of those things," he said.

"That's my role. That's my commitment I made to the Sikh temple."

Last week, Scaffidi joined other mayors, including those in Aurora, Colorado and Blacksburg, Va., on a conference call with Vice President Joe Biden, who is leading a task force seeking remedies for gun violence.

He said when Biden asked him for feedback, he advised the vice president to "give people real things they can do right away" — just what this forum seeks to accomplish.

"We don't have to wait for gun legislation," said Scaffidi, who himself owns two guns used for hunting.

Attendees at the Jan. 12 forum will be given a list of 10 things they can do, or questions to answer, to combat gun violence.

For instance:

  • If you have guns, are they stored safely?
  • Do you know who to call if you notice something or someone that doesn't seem right, to either help that person or safeguard the community?
  • Mental health: if you or someone in your family are not getting the support you need, where can you go?

Those topics and more will be discussed at the forum. Attendees will have an opportunity to ask questions and afterward talk 1-on-1 with guests.

Scaffidi knows the event won't solve the issue overnight, but feels it's a good starting point.

"I wouldn't be doing my job, or any an elected official or leader wouldn't be doing their job, if they didn’t try to find simple solutions to what can be complex problems," he  said.

vocal local 1 January 08, 2013 at 08:42 PM
Phil, Cont. The media certainly does tell the average joe citizen how to think. After all were in a recession now aren’t we for example. You probably won’t get this either. Text book definition of recession –v- depression is that in a recession the economy slows down. In a depression business’s fail. When our top financial institutions fail and the largest manufactures where are we, a recession or a depression? CNN, Fox, the media as a whole lies to the American public by telling them they are in a recession or a double dip or triple whatever and the public parrots it like good little disciples of destruction of the country as a whole. Don’t American’s know the meaning of congruent? Don’t they get the collateral effects? Another example: American’s are proud of their kids in the military fighting foreign investor wars, killing children, urinating on corpses and loudly farting in formation in the presence of foreign dignitaries. When my kid got orders for Kabul I told him to go AWOL not to fight their monkey wars. I wasn’t proud I was ashamed that he was so ignorant. Call me Un-American? No, Born in the USA.
Phil January 09, 2013 at 02:25 AM
Vocal...ok stay with me here. As you know politicians name laws ironically to garner support in the general public while the law does the exact opposite of its name. Mayors against illegal guns sounds nice, but is inconsistent with what action is proposed. If one were to follow the stated ideology one would go after criminals that have guns illegally NOT make guns illegal and take them from everyone, which is what they are proposing. See the difference? The debate should be made with logic, not emotion. While I enjoy your rambling, and always respect the opinions of others you are missing logic in your statements. I have no desire to respond to the many other things you've brought up, they sound way more fun to talk about on a bar stool.
vocal local 1 January 09, 2013 at 08:29 AM
Sorry Phil, wrong again. You said the title: Mayors against illegal Guns is inconsistent with the action proposed. You suggest the mayors want to make guns illegal for everyone. "if", your suggestion is correct everyone with a gun will be a criminal and they will go after them. What about this is not logical? In addition, you claim your position is clear: "My position is clear. Further gun laws will not accomplish the desired result of stopping this kind of violence." Gun bans definitely will decrease the numbers of mass "SHOOTINGS", as evidenced in countries with strict gun law. Unfortunately, bans on guns will not stop Mass Killings again as evidenced in countries with gun bans where perps use other weapons. Your right in that I don't want to be mayor. I never understood the contest between candidates for the position. I'd rather have the power of a vote in the decision making process. You my dear flunked logic 101 or never attempted the course work. I on the other hand excelled in logic and application, wanna see my transcripts? In closing if at first you don't succeed, try and try again.
Phil January 09, 2013 at 01:50 PM
Vocal, there are so many flaws with your ratiocination I don't know where to begin. Again, try and think with logic and not emotion. Support your claims with facts not opinion and fantasy.
Patriot January 09, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Get ready folks sounds like the Obama machine will once again shred the Constitution to acheive his gun control agenda. Rumor has he will use executive order to push thru his gun control agenda. If in fact he does use executive orders to do just that we will be one step closer to Stalins Russia/Hitlers Nazi Germany
vocal local 1 January 10, 2013 at 12:44 AM
Talk a revolution..I suspect Obama is considering a complete ban of guns from private citizens as well as other considerations. He knows the numbers of Americans with guns and our refusal to mediate on the 2nd. Will they pay us for our loss? Will we comply? How would government enforce the law? Considering they cannot search and seize the entire population the only way govt. would know would be by the numbers of guns not returned per the calculated numbers in circulation. They could project numbers of illegal guns in areas but the only way they could search and seize is in connection with a legal search and seizure connected to another crime. Meaning charges and enforcement would become ancillary. IS THIS CORRECT?
Patriot January 10, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Patriot January 10, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Patriot January 10, 2013 at 09:43 PM
This says it all plzzzzzzzzzz watch http://www.prisonplanet.com/eric-holder-reveals-effort-by-government-to-demonize-gun-ownership.html
vocal local 1 January 11, 2013 at 01:13 AM
FYI: Forum announced in the Suburban Now. One can hardly recognize it's the same meeting. Mayor is not going to tolerate any "hateful" speech. Has anyone asked whats this costing us in police overtime pay? Last Forum there were cops everywhere, each door, each corner, behind the forum members. Something else came to mind today. Reportedly, President Obama, Rahm, now mayor of Chicago, Jessie Jackson, Jessie Jackson Jr. and spouse, and David Myers Faith Based Initiatives, all Chicago homeboys want gun legislation to stop the gang killings in Chicago. Restrictive gun laws haven't made a dent in the problem. Whats wrong with this picture? Remember Janet Reno? Remember Ruby RIdge and the peace living Weavers? Remember Waco, David Keresh? Both were peace loving communities and there were others William Cooper. Government didn't have any problem going in and slaughtering them now did they? But the Nations Guns and Gun laws are under threat to save the slums of Chicago? Don't Tread on ME.
Patriot January 11, 2013 at 04:14 PM
Patriot January 11, 2013 at 04:15 PM
Its time for those who hold the Constitution dear to their hearts to be heard!!!!
vocal local 1 January 12, 2013 at 12:35 AM
It's time to stand up and be counted not hide at home in your closets.
vocal local 1 January 12, 2013 at 09:57 AM
Balbir, Thank You for explaining/clarifying. I suspected the Sikh are being used. I also read there is some dissension between the youth, especially in our case the “Americanized youth” pull from conventional teachings. The issues are not simplistic especially with the perversion of truth sustained with denial of information. The situation brings to mind the English Woman’s Suffrage Movement which went something like: Stand beside us, do not grovel, do not beg. I can’t remember more and my book is packed much to my chagrin. You were with Jessie Jackson, what did you learn? I’m interested in Rev. Jackson’s thoughts on mental health post his son’s problems. I hope Jr. isn’t doped up. What happened to him that confused his whole world? Did he see how ineffective his work as a senator was and how he was being used by the establishment for who knows what purpose. It’s a very strange world we live in Balbir. I always have to remember it is our actions today that preserve or deny freedoms for our children, our successors. In my life, I obviously have not been effective, really understood the collateral effects, have not fought hard enough to preserve and guarantee my children and grandchildren would have the same opportunities afforded them that were afforded me.
vocal local 1 January 13, 2013 at 12:11 AM
I just returned from the forum. Same garbage as before. No opportunity to step up to the mic and ask critical question we have to date been denied the right to ask. Again, questions were submitted and chosen. The "conformed" white supremacist was a joke. He didn't know Wade Page but he states Page joined the White Supremacist. When I questioned him after he admitted he didn't know him, didn't have contact with anyone that knew him didn't in fact know Wade Page was or was not a white supremacist. . Santelle was up on stage talking about this as a Hate Crime. James Santelle of all people knows the Temple Shooting was never officially classified as a Hate Crime. The Social Worker who replaced the Sikh Social Worker from the first forum parroted general babble. The mental health experts have lots of help lines but no real help to offer, more of the same. All in all it was a boring event but the Quizno's vegetarian subs were tasty.
Patriot January 13, 2013 at 12:27 AM
@Vocal-I was there as well. Have to say I felt a real underlying message that was being presented. As for the reformed white supremacist well he was a pawn for their message. Not impressed at all. There were no hard solutions or offers of solutions. I took away from this a hidden agenda to get a feel for where the community stands on gun control.
vocal local 1 January 13, 2013 at 01:58 AM
No, this was a PRESENTATION, they were telling us. They don't care what you or I or any resident wants they are telling us what we want.
Patriot January 13, 2013 at 02:00 PM
@Vocal- I have to agree with you. I felt as though the Mayor did not want to hear or discuss anything that he did not agree with. As he stated it was a waste of time to argue or disagree so to speak. Well that says to me its his way or no way. Guess what Mr Mayor we WILL VOTE YOU OUT!!!! With that attitude you DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE!!! Rather you are speaking for a select few. It makes me sad for what took place back in August but the feeling I left your forum with yesterday said to me that you were and are speaking for the Sikhs and not the majority. Bottom line you have an agenda and you are going to push your agenda forward regardless. Again as you stated its pointless to disagree or argue or discuss. Also you made mention of the 1st Amendment yesterday, but failed to mention one of the most important Amendments, the 2nd Amendment. Although you had it copied onto your Meeting Agenda yet did not mention it. Hmmmmmmmmm and you say this was not about gun control? Totally about gun control but in a very psycological way.
Balbir Singh January 13, 2013 at 03:32 PM
Wish I could make it if I was there to put a Sikh perspective, if allowed that is, to this garbage. I am in Fresno, CA for the weekend but patiently following the developments. Trust me, these "temple" officials (who can not even identify place of worship as A Gurudwara due to their complexes) do not represent the Sikh of Milwaukee period. Basic everyday Sikh prayer salutes the sword, spears before the Ardas begins. These economic refugees are far removed from Sikh ethos, principles and its philosophy.
Balbir Singh January 13, 2013 at 03:36 PM
ਅਰਦਾਸ: ੴ ਵਾਹਿਗ੝ਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ ॥ ਸ੝ਰੀ ਭਗੌਤੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ ॥ ਵਾਰ ਸ੝ਰੀ ਭਗੌਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦॥ Ardaas, Ekh-oonkaar Vaaheguroo jee kee Fat'eh. Sree Bhagautee jee Sahaa-e; vaar Sree Bhagautee jee kee Paat'shaahee D'assveen Plea: One God, Victory belongs to Waheguru. The sacred Bhagauti pervails; Ode to the Bhagauti by the tenth master. .. Bhaguati means weapons and this is the first stanza of everyday Sikh prayer. The picked Sikh faces may not even be observant Sikhs to begin with let alone speak with authority on matters of Sikh principles, heritage and scripture.
Patriot January 13, 2013 at 03:50 PM
@Balbir- Yes from what I have been trying to learn about Sikhisim is that your people/religion believes in the almighty sword. It is also my understanding that the sikhs have pursued the ability to carry their swords? But because of our laws you are restricted in doing so. I support your religion and the laws of your religion obviously within reason. Just as our 2nd Amendment has some limitations as well. I would entertain the thought of talking with you sometime and learning more about your religion and culture.
Balbir Singh January 13, 2013 at 04:04 PM
Not a worry. I work in Milwaukee and you can email me at hinuttypilot@hotmail.com sometime so we can arrange a face to face honest discourse to know each other better. True we carry a kirpan and post 9/11 we have agreed and conformed to not travel with it whilst air travel. More on that when we sit some day
Patriot January 13, 2013 at 04:27 PM
Thank You. I will most def be in touch. Very interested in learning more about your culture and religion. Not to mention your cuisine. I try cooking some of your foods but just not sure its the same. LOL Have a great day
vocal local 1 January 13, 2013 at 04:42 PM
Hey you guys, I want to meet too. Sikhs allow women just as much voice is my understanding.
Patriot January 13, 2013 at 04:56 PM
It sure seems that history is once again repeating itself. So similar to the pre revolutionary days when the British Empire tried to rule the people. During the 1760s pre-revolutionary period, the established colonial militia was composed of colonists, which included a number who were loyal to British imperial rule. As defiance and opposition to the British rule developed, a distrust of these Loyalists in the militia became widespread among the colonists, known as Patriots, who favored independence from British rule. As a result, these Patriots established independent colonial legislatures to create their own militias that excluded the Loyalists and then sought out to stock up independent armories for their militias. In response to this arms build up, the British Parliament established an embargo on firearms, parts and ammunition on the American colonies
Be Logical January 20, 2013 at 02:53 PM
Michele, thanks for your voice of logic and what is just plain common sense. A couple of crazies seem to be set on leading people into believing nonsense and conspiracy theories.
Patriot January 20, 2013 at 03:06 PM
@Logical-So just becasue I do not agree with your liberal progressive ideology you have labeled me as a crazy? Very typical. Sorry history tends to repeat itself and considering the UN is pushing for total disarmement which is due to hit congress this spring for a vote. Im not crazy at all. Just an informed voted
Patriot January 20, 2013 at 03:08 PM
Just an informed voter and concerned citizen.
Patriot January 24, 2013 at 06:47 PM
Patriot January 24, 2013 at 06:49 PM


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