Wisconsin Governor Walker Won't Support Repealing Smoking Ban

Marlene Bakken July 9, 2011 at 03:04 am

One only has to look at the marketing strategies by Johnson & Johnson, makers of their own brand of nicotine in droplets stuck in a piece of gum and bariatric surgery that maims the demonized overweight people, and all of the deadly drugs they've put out lately that has resulted in recalls, and the fact that they were busted for bribery recently, to see that this is just more propaganda. Tobacco is in the nightshade family that includes potatoes, tomatoes, broccoli, cauliflower. Should we ban those? Not yet, pharma doesn't have a substitute, but they do have vitamins, thus the push to ban raw milk, herbs, and backyard gardens. They use bogus "science" to hoodwink uneducated legislators into making unconstitutional laws in the name of "public health" that in essence just wipes out the competition in a brilliant marketing scam, and these legislators have no idea that they've given away OUR farm. More and more people are paying attention, We The People DEMAND the nanny state retreat to the scum ponds from which they came!

Marlene Bakken July 9, 2011 at 03:05 am

Say a state has two million people with 20% smokers, that's around 400,000 and you demonize them with anti-smoker laws and get perhaps half of them to try and quit, that's 200,000 buying nicoderm or nicoret at about $200 a try, that's $40,000,000.00, for big pharma. Hospitals are complicit in this marketing scam. Wake up people! Walker's wife works for an arm of pharma!

Marlene Bakken July 9, 2011 at 03:05 am

The founding of the U.S. was financed by tobacco, yet the nannies would ban the use of it now. And look how many famous people smoked and died of old age. In fact, some of the world's oldest people are, or were smokers. It's true, the person who lived longer (122 yrs) than anyone else in the world to date, Jeanne Louise Calment, smoked her entire life as did many others. Smokers already pay more for health insurance. That nonsense that smokers cost more to the health care system is propoganda that many have swallowed hook, line, and sinker. 1/4 of the population did NOT cause costs to rise the way they have! But government is allowing big pharma to use laws and our uneducated elected officials in a brilliant marketing scam for their own brand of nicotine. And THAT'S where everything went wrong, by allowing pharma's nanny organizations as tools to use their propoganda unchecked. It's time for the PEOPLE to unite and put an end to it!

Jim Bob July 9, 2011 at 04:29 am

I believe Sheila Harsdorf voted for the smoking ban. Should we call off the recall election?

Jim Bob July 9, 2011 at 04:36 am

Right on Marlene! The the enslavement of Blacks, the genocide against the American Indians and the exploitation of starving immigrants helped create the robber barons who build a lot of libraries and museums. Perhaps it's time we bring back some of these building blocks that laid the foundation of the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Perhaps you need to go to a few different bars. In New Richmond, most of the bars now have some kind of smoking room. It's almost like there is no smoking ban.

Jay July 9, 2011 at 04:53 am

I dont think he lost his guts I think he never really planned on repealing it, just was looking for votes from small business and smokers.

Jay July 9, 2011 at 04:56 am

I dont get this mentality on the issue. The right wants to control us all as well. The only difference is that they want big business to do all their dirty work so they can't be blamed, and then they can still get kickbacks from all the big business that doesnt get caught or in trouble when they so obviously screw of middle class people.

Jay July 9, 2011 at 04:58 am

After he said what he said in the campaign and how strongly he said it to now say he wont support repeal, it becomes his.

Jay Sykes July 9, 2011 at 12:50 pm

The the 'financial' portion of the burden, that smoking smoking weighs on the healthcare system, can be solved by removing the known direct costs. We know 20-25% of the population smokes and that it costs about 30% more to provide healthcare for smokers. Simply charge the smokers an additional 30%;the cost burden that smoking adds to the cost of providing direct medical care.

Marlene Bakken July 9, 2011 at 01:10 pm

Anyone voting to strip property rights from owners in the name of corporate greed should be recalled! 21 people from 9 states filed a formal complaint against pharma's racketeering with the gov't and have thus far been ignored. That alone should tell you something.

Jim Bob July 9, 2011 at 02:10 pm

Marlene, do you mean like the right to own slaves?

Dan BV July 9, 2011 at 03:29 pm

See! Sheila Harsdorf voted for the smoking ban. She is a bad person. Or is she a good person? She cares not for the little guy... or does she care a lot for the little guy?
Urgh, now I'm hyper confused and frustrated by all this. Anybody got a methol? Time to quit quitting.

Jim Bob July 9, 2011 at 05:03 pm

Sheila cares about the small farmers... especially the ones who give her $1,000 donations. Of course, these "small farmers" like Sheila receive government welfare checks, I mean subsidies, annually well into the six figures. Let's see, cut the low income tax credit and increase the tax credits available to businesses. What would Grover Norquist say about this?

Thurston Howell III July 9, 2011 at 05:22 pm

Marlene, You should contact Sen. Herb Kohl and ask him about his proposed legislation to stop the Pharma's Pay for Delay tactic. To me this is exactly the "racketeering" you refer to. Pay for delay is when Big Pharmaceutical companies pay off generic drug manufacturers to not produce generic forms of drugs whose patents have expired.

Thurston Howell III July 9, 2011 at 05:23 pm

Oh by the way what is Sen. Ron Johnson doing about this issue? ZERO!

Bucky July 10, 2011 at 01:04 am

The same way he spit on you and everyone else in the state. You are not the only one that supported him accross the board. Thousands of others were right there with you and now have suffered job looses, cuts in benefits and lost pay. If you want to repent for your political sins then sign the recall papers along with the thousands of others that were duped like you.

Marshall Keith July 13, 2011 at 07:20 pm

Smokers costs the health system less because they die younger.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22995659/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/actually-its-long-healthy-life-costs-more/ The Junk science behind the ban was crafted by cheating and using Meta-analysis.

Marshall Keith July 13, 2011 at 07:23 pm

Bren we are not and never have been a democracy, The founders had a huge disdain for it because a simple majority could strip the rights from the minority.
http://veritasvincitprolibertate.wordpress.com/constitutional-republic/

Marshall Keith July 13, 2011 at 07:26 pm

As i pointed out earlier, smokers cost less not more. And the junk science behind the smoking ban was manufactured using meta-analysis.
http://veritasvincitprolibertate.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/meta-analysis-science-or-a-tool-for-advocacy/

Marshall Keith July 13, 2011 at 07:28 pm

Ron Johnson is a Federal Senator and doesn't vote on state issues, he represents the state in the federal system. This is a state law.

robert heule September 24, 2011 at 03:40 pm

It Thought that the pro-life party(GOP) would advocate a product that has been proven to kill people

Marshall Keith September 24, 2011 at 06:45 pm

Your assertion that smokers are a burden on the healthcare system is not backed up by the facts. Google smoking health care costs and you will find that smokers are actually less of a burden on society.

Marshall Keith September 24, 2011 at 07:00 pm

Jim Bob, it is the progressives that were the racist and like the smoking bans they used junk science to back it up. In the case of racism they used the false science called eugenics. Google "eugenics and progressive" and educate yourself?

Marshall Keith September 24, 2011 at 07:12 pm

Robert Heike, for one thing there were many Tea Party Libertarians that backed Scott Walker. Second there is a difference between killing an innocent child that has no say in the decision and adults choosing to smoke or entering private property {like a bar}. What is funny is the liberals calling for a strict desperation of church and state only to impose their own morality on the public. Is not morality the domain of the church? Should not that separation go both ways?

Keith Schmitz September 24, 2011 at 09:53 pm

Welcome the smoking troll to the roster.

Robert B. September 24, 2011 at 10:27 pm

The sidewalk in front of Foxie's in downtown port is disgusting. Walk down the street and you'll notice how dark the sidewalk is compared to other areas due to all the ash dropped on it since the ban took place. Lot's of gum too.

Steve September 24, 2011 at 10:47 pm

That's a pretty far fetched pipe dream if you think a smoking ban is going to make a recall easy.

Lyle Ruble September 24, 2011 at 11:24 pm

@Marshall Kieth...Morality is not strictly the domain of religious institutions. Morality exists independently and is part of the social fabric of a community. To assign a moral position to one group or another is fallacious, since moral principles are not universal. Just as one group supports choice and opposes captial punishment while another group opposes choice and supports capital punishment.

constitution September 25, 2011 at 10:18 am

It would be interesting if Scott Walker answered this question: Mr Walker, who do you support, special interest pharma foundation funded mob induced smoking ban and pharma nicotine profits or tax paying citizens who invested in their own privately owned businesses?
I personally think Scott Walker is unfit for office, his remarks shows his lack of interest in private business ownership which is good for the states citizens, who will pick up the tab for his dereliction of duty to keeping WI free from mob tyranny?

constitution September 25, 2011 at 10:39 am

I hear ya Marlene, people should unite in the states and across the country to blister the butts of immoral leaders who put special interest ahead of the interest of people who invest in the economy. Just look at the bad shape of the economy since RWJF's pocket puppet in Washington started tearing down a real American success company that employed thousands (tobacco co) just to pimp pharma nicotine. I don't care who likes or dislikes the tobacco co's, there are other companies I don't like but nobody should destroy them and their customer base, its best that one simply don't purchase from the companies who offer products they don't like. I think private business owners and their smoking customers are the vehicle used in a war for nicotine profits by big pharma